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  • amazer98 amazer98 @ 9:53 AM
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    Moving from oil to propane heat-- make sense?

    Hi -- I'm a newbie to this forum, but I've done a lot of googling
    lately on the topic of residential propane heating systems lately, and
    this site has often been in the top search results. I've learned a lot,
    but somehow still feel a bit clueless about the best way to move ahead
    with our plans to retire our 25 year old oil boiler and move to a
    greener propane system.



    I live in southern NH in a 25 year old cape.... 2100 sq. ft., with 2x4
    construction. Five years ago, I added blown in insulation to our attic
    to get it to R40... We also recently replaced some indows and the front
    and back doors, so the house is decently tight, if not fodder for the
    cover story in Insulation Monthly magazine.

    Anyway, with the volatility of oil prices, I thought that switching to
    propane might makes sense, both economically and environmentally. I've
    looked into modcon boilers, which a couple of local contractors have
    recommended, including the company that supplies us oil ( they also deal
    in propane).


    I like the concept of modcons, tho I do have some concern about their
    longevity. More to the point, I wonder if our house is well-suited for
    modcons. I think our downstairs area in particular does not have enough
    baseboard. On cold days of say zero degrees, our boiler fires away yet
    the house can get up to only 66 degrees or so.

    Fortunately, the temps
    are usually not that cold.

    If we are "under-baseboarded" with copper/aluminum finned board, that
    means that a modcon wouldn't do much condensing during most of winter,
    right?, since it would be heating water to 180 degrees or more. Would we
    not be better off with a conventional gas boiler, perhaps one with an
    outdoor sensor that modulated the water temps to align with the outside
    temp?


    I have a general question about copper baseboard: does not the
    efficiency of these convective baseboards drop off with cooler water
    temps? If so, perhaps the condensing boilers and also even the
    modulating ones are not suited for copper baseboard.

    At first I was thinking of a Triangle Tube Prestige Solo modcon, but now
    I'm wondering if a conventional gas boiler like a Veissmann Vitola (if I
    can afford it) would make sense.


    Or should I stay with our oil burner for a few more years? I burn about 830
    gal/yr with an indirect hot water tank and a wood stove I fire up most
    winter afternoons.

    By the way, natural gas is not an option in our semi-rural town, tho one
    of my neighbors heats with bituminous coal and says it saves him a
    fortune.


    Thanks, guys, I really appreciate any insights you can offer!
  • lchmb lchmb @ 8:57 PM
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    heat loss

    The first thing you need to have done is a heat loss.  At that point you can see if you have enough baseboard and also what size heating system you should have. The outdoor reset is a must in any situation as a boiler is only sized on the coldest day or two of the year and the rest of the time is over sized. I like the Triangle tube, excellent boiler and i would definately opt for this over a standard cast iron boiler....
  • Steamhead Steamhead @ 3:58 PM
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    What are

    the costs per BTU of oil and propane in your area? 
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.

    Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time.
  • kcopp kcopp @ 10:55 PM
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    I would do...

    two things. Insulate the envelope better... seal it up. Keep the oil. I live in NH also (Dover) and LP is no bargain here. 1 gal. of LP is about 91k btu and 1 gal. of #2 oil in about 140k btu. do the math you still ahead of the game. If you want to upgrade your system oil is still a better set up. Good oil is around 86% afue and good LP 95%. You sure about Nat gas? Unitil has been moving out a lot this past year...kpc
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