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  • mike chacon mike chacon @ 9:41 PM
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    Bull head end of T rules/codes

    What is code for entering bull side of T on potable water and hydronics?
  • Mark Eatherton Mark Eatherton @ 9:11 AM
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    Mikey...

    Que pasa mi amigo:-)

    To the best of my knowledge, and as it pertains to the plumbing code, that focus is very blurry due to the lack of using it on a regular basis, but it USE to be legal to do so. You have 70 PSI of driving force behind the water, and it WILL go where you want it to, and KEEP going there.

    In a closed loop system, it USE to be illegal, but when modcon boilers were introduced, the AHJ's were SO confused, that instead of trying to educate themselves so they could tell the difference between an illegal BH tee and a primary secondary connection, they did away with the whole section in the code that addressed the BH tee situation.... Sad day in codesville in my humble opinion.

    As for your next anticipated question, YES, it absolutely DOES make a difference. If bull headed, the flows will constantly keep changing, because as you remember from class, water is like my ex brother in law. Wet lazy and stupid. He MUST be show what direction to go, because if he has to make up his simple mind, it will keep changing because the pressure drops related to the circuits keeps changing as well.

    The ONLY exception I allow to this rule, is in situations where the BH tee is being used to determine wether the flow goes to a DHW indirect tank, or to a space heating load. Under this scenario, the flow WILL be locked into the load (forced by dedicated prioritized pumps) and will not deviate.

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  • mike chacon mike chacon @ 1:43 AM
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    Thanks Mark

    Nice to hear from you. Congrats on your new position. Hope to run into you soon. Thanks for the info. Mike
  • Bob Harper Bob Harper @ 12:08 PM
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    2009 IRC

    M2101.7 Prohibited tee applications- Fluid in the supply side of a hydronic system shall not enter a tee fitting through the branch opening.

    Nothing noted in the IPC about potable water piping and tee orientation.
    HTH
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