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  • Ed59 Ed59 @ 7:14 PM
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    Does this boiler seem piped right?

    I've been reading on this site and Dan's books how important boiler piping is and I'm wondering if this looks right? Or am I confused?
  • nicholas bonham-carter nicholas bonham-carter @ 7:24 PM
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    piping problem

    I would say not even close to the instructions. probably should use both headers, and put in a horizontal header with one feed from it to any main above.
    Is the system noisy?
  • Fred Fred @ 7:33 PM
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    Doesn't look very good

    There is no header there. The header should run horizontally 24" to 28" above the boiler water line with a swing joint to relieve stress on the boiler from expansion/contraction. The two mains should each be tied, independently into the header. The equalizer should come off of the end of the header, after the mains, and the piping for the Hartford loop should run along the floor like the wet return and then come up so that there is a close nipple that ties it into the equalizer  
    This post was edited by an admin on March 19, 2014 9:25 PM.
  • Steamhead Steamhead @ 8:07 PM
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    Only thing they did right

    was to use black steel rather than copper. Hopefully you can re-use some of those pieces when you repipe. 
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  • bustoff315 bustoff315 @ 8:59 PM
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    Auto Feeder

    I find it interesting that the automatic water feeder is shut off as well. I bet there is/was a lot of water leaving that system.
  • Ed59 Ed59 @ 9:25 PM
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    auto feeder

    Very observant. Wouldn't some it make sense to leave the auto-feeder off most times to make sure you noticed any leakage? Only turn it on if you're going to be away for a while as a safety?
  • Ed59 Ed59 @ 9:22 PM
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    Does this boiler seem piped right?

    Like I said, I'm no professional, but this is what struck me:

    - No horizontal header

    - Hartford loop / equalizer boiler side doesn't go down to the level of the return

    - Return not connected to the Hartford loop with a close nipple, looks like 8 - 10"
    This post was edited by an admin on March 19, 2014 9:30 PM.
  • Ed59 Ed59 @ 10:28 PM
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    Looking for steam contractor in Boston area

    So this isn't my system. Sigh. I'm looking for a good steam contractor in the Boston area.

    These pictures are right off the Facebook page of one highly rated contractor. They posted them themselves as an example of a job they did.

    But he did measure the radiators. The first contractor I had in (highly recommended by friends) didn't do that. When I questioned the boiler sizing, I was told he had 40 years experience sizing boilers. But the boiler supplier could do a full heat-loss calculation if I wanted...

    Any recommendations?
  • Charlie from wmass Charlie from wmass @ 11:12 PM
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    I service there

    If it is in CT or MA I service there. You can look at my ad from the link below.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
  • RDSTEAM RDSTEAM @ 4:09 PM
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    Wow....

    That thing isn't even close to correct. Insulation looks really nice though.
  • Ed59 Ed59 @ 9:39 PM
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    thanks charlie

    I've seen a lot of good advice from you here, but you're a loooong way from Boston. I'd really like to have somebody nearby in case of emergency, and for annual maintenance
  • BobC BobC @ 9:45 PM
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    This might work

    If you really want someone local you might try

    http://72.3.142.104/professional/428/J-A-Phinney-Plumbing-and-Heating

    He is in Milton and he knows whereof he speaks.

    Bob
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  • gerry gill gerry gill @ 10:52 PM
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    not even close to right

    Give Charlie a call. He will fix you right up, and properly.
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.
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