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@ November 16, 2009 5:00 PM in Condensing Boilers & PVC Exhaust

Here is a photo of the vent that I was talking about.  Look at the spot where shipping tape was covering the pipe.  No UV damage there.  This pipe was ouside in the sun for many months before it was installed. 


@ November 16, 2009 10:02 AM in Condensing Boilers & PVC Exhaust

I had an install that discolored like that.  The pipe had been left ouside in the sun for about 6months to a year.  I think the UV damaged the PVC.  This was the only Mod/Con that I ever had discoloration of exaust vent on.  The exaust temp was no higher that of other systems.  It has been in service for 3years now with not failure. 

Hey Darin Cook Going Back Over(jalcoplumb)

@ November 16, 2009 9:40 AM in Hey Darin Cook Going Back Over(jalcoplumb)

Gonna miss you this time.  Heading back to our old hangout.  Not the same location but close enough.  Hope all is well.  Tell Bruce and the boy's I said Hi!  It is gonna be a short heating season for me.  I am going to look up our group photo with the dead men t-shirts and post it. 

First steam in years.(jalcoplumb)

@ November 16, 2009 9:30 AM in First steam in years.(jalcoplumb)

It has been a good few years since my last steam install.  I had to re-pipe the old 2” single take-off header with a new 3” double take-off header.  I bumped the equalizer line up to 2”.  Due to a lack of combustion air in the basement I added a Field Controls CAS-4 “Fan in a Can”.   To my amazement I found that the old boiler was sized properly (even though the near boiler piping was a mess.)  I installed a new Burnham IN-7 electronic ignition w/vent damper.  The old boiler was a Burnham 407.  That poor thing had seen a couple of flooded basements and a lot of make-up water due to a leak in the return.  It was 19yrs old and there were three sections rotted thru at the water line.  The steam leaking was causing roll-out and melted the ignition control.  Thank God it melted and failed.  The old boiler was rusted and the roll-out switch screws had corroded away, it was on the bottom of the unit nowhere near the flames. 

Having another.

@ May 3, 2007 8:13 AM in Having a pint.(jalcoplumb)

Now I have to have one for you. (Twist my arm) Thank you Brad.

Having a pint.

@ May 3, 2007 8:04 AM in Having a pint.(jalcoplumb)

Darin Cook I am having a pint for you. Laying over in Shannon Ireland en route to the sand box. Got to have a Big Ugly here. Got to love this wireless internet stuff. I can get the wall anywhere

Get a new one.

@ April 23, 2007 12:57 AM in Hot water heater

Are you willing to risk everything for a few hundred dollars? It is not about the fact that it will work; it is the fact that if something happens your insurance company will not cover anything period. How close is your neighbors house? Burn it down along with yours and you are really up the creek. Have someone die in the process and it just gets worse. Check out this bulletin put out by GAMA, it is one of many on the subject.$FILE/Flood-Damaged%20Appliances%20Should%20Be%20Replaced.pdf What stinks is the plumber who installed it will end up getting sued for something he didn't even know about. Call your insurance company. I have been involved in water damage cases. For a lousy deductable they covered replacing the water heater, furnace, property, clean up cost and more than you would think. If you don't have insurance and can't afford to have it fixed then call the manufacture, local supply house, local plumbing contractor, guy down the street and ask for help. There are plenty of folks out there that would step up to the plate and help. Set up a fundraiser for all the folks in your area who need to get there equipment replaced. You could end up in jail or broke for the rest of your life. If you like to take chances sell everything you own and put it on black at the roulette table, there you can only hurt yourself, and you have a chance to win big. Good luck, Joe P.S. If I put the water heater in call me. I will come and replace the burner, controls, and/or water heater for you. I dont want to get sued for something I didnt do.

Wish I could come.

@ April 23, 2007 12:20 AM in July date for Big Ugly Western Mass \"Jerry\" Bash

I had a blast at the NYC Big Ugly. Wish I could come. I will be away in July, count me in for the next one though. Joe

Great time.

@ April 22, 2007 11:18 PM in Big Ugly NYC

Well, I have not had Grappa since I was in Italy in the late 90s. What a night that was. John I cant thank you enough for being the great host that you were. It was a pleasure to finally put a face to all the names. (Too bad after all the Grappa I will not remember them all, or is that just me getting old?) I had an outstanding time. It was good to see every one of you. I wish I could have spent more time and didnt have to leave when I did. That being said I made it to my Drill weekend (little rough around the edges) and spent the day at the rifle range. Shot a 47 out of 50, not bad considering all the Grappa. Then went to my promotion board on Sunday and kicked butt there as well. All and all, the Big Ugly was a start of an awesome weekend for me. I cant wait for the next one. Thank you, Joseph A Landree JAL Co. Plumbing & Heating

Heat Transfer Products

@ April 17, 2007 6:20 AM in Is there a boiler that can double as a swimming pool heater?

Makes a indirect heater that will work off a properly sized boiler.


@ April 17, 2007 6:13 AM in Voyager Parts HELP!!

That is a good number. I was hoping to get something by Monday for overnight. The problem was that HTP was closed on Monday for a state holiday. I tried to call all day with no luck. I managed to get an e-mail around 1:30 that said if I had faxed and order in by noon it might have shipped that day for Tuesday delivery. If not I would have to wait for Tuesday to place the order for Wednesday delivery. I was trying to buy an extra day for the customer. I got the call on Thursday and placed an order on Friday for parts but there was a mix-up and only the blower was shipped. They have 8 kids and no hot water for over 8 days. HTP will be open this morning. Please give me a call. I want to keep my options open. I need to get their hot water working. Thank You, Joseph A Landree JAL Co. Plumbing & Heating 609.304.9749

Need parts for a Voyager.

@ April 16, 2007 2:16 PM in Voyager Parts HELP!!

Need to find a new burner assembly, hot surface igniter, and new gaskets for the gas train. Cant get through to HTP, might be the weather. Long shot but does anyone have these parts? Thank you, Joseph A Landree JAL Co. Plumbing & Heating 609.304.9749


@ April 16, 2007 2:10 PM in Startup Procedure After Flood

Call your insurance company. Most of the time depending on your coverage they will pay for the repair less the deductible of course. This is a very dangerous situation. If you do just clean out and start up the equipment and there is a problem later you are liable.

FYI, jalcoplumb

@ April 10, 2007 5:12 PM in Big Ugly NYC, Italian style...THE DETAILS THREAD.

is Joe Landree. Can't wait to meet everyone. Gonna start fasting now so I have room for all the good food. Wish I didn't have to show up at the base on Saturday morning.

Can't wait.

@ April 5, 2007 11:21 PM in Big Ugly NYC, Italian style...THE DETAILS THREAD.

Only problem is I have my military weekend starting on Saturday morning. It is going to be a long Saturday.

T-80 Rev.2

@ April 3, 2007 3:46 PM in munchkin

Not so good. bottom of cover was sticking out 1/2" Had to use a couple of screws.


@ April 3, 2007 3:38 PM in Manifold vs. Recirc loop

What brand and model FLIR? Interested in getting one.

beat me to it.

@ April 3, 2007 3:31 PM in Manifold vs. Recirc loop

I need to refresh more often.

My opinion.

@ April 3, 2007 3:29 PM in Manifold vs. Recirc loop

IMO, I tend to like the manifold systems. We can split hairs all day long. First, in an insulated recirculation system you will have heat-loss. The timer is a good tool to help minimize the heat loss but it is still there. This can cause your water heater to run more often. Second, you have a pump. This uses electricity and can fail. You can set up a gravity recirculation system in some cases. This will eliminate the need for the pump but you will have more heat-loss due to the constant circulation. Third circulation depending on the flow rates can cause wear on the piping system. Manifold with a water heater in close proximity eliminates the need for circulation. I dont have the time to figure out how long it will take to purge a 100 3/8 line of cold water but I do know that it does not take long at all. What are a couple of seconds and a few pints of water when you are saving energy, time and money? Any one out there got some free time to figure it out how long and how much water to purge the 3/8 line? Opinions are great. Joe

Munchkin opinion.

@ April 3, 2007 2:53 PM in munchkin

I have installed many Munchkins throughout the years including many pre 925 units. I always follow the installation instructions to the letter and use a combustion analyzer to set them up. I have had very few problems. I had to replace a few blower units; mostly from the bad manufacturing run they had a couple of years ago. Every time I had a problem I would call my rep or the factory. Every time I got exceptional service and no hassles. I have seen many improvements in the product line. It seems that they are constantly improving their product. Some improvements have been to fix design issues. I would like to see some better improvements to the 925 control, a boost feature, the option to use an indoor sensor instead of a thermostat, Vision option for injection mixing to name a few. The boiler jacket seal needs to be addressed. I would like to see the inlet air going directly to the blower inlet, like some of the other manufactures do. This would eliminate the need for a better jacket seal. As for blower issues, look at the blowers in just about every modulating boiler and you will find the same manufacture makes them all. Overall I have been pleased with them. When I started using them there were not many 90+ modulating boilers out there, now the market is getting crowded. Other manufactures took a backseat and waited for companies like HTP to work the bugs out. There are some nice products coming out. I hope HTP will keep updating and improving their line with the times. My 2 cents, Joe


@ April 3, 2007 2:35 PM in munchkin

Sounds like something is either being sucked up at the inlet or around the jacket. Sealing the jacket might help. One thing that does bother me is the fact that HTP has not improved the seal around the boiler jacket.

Than You All....

@ September 9, 2006 10:36 PM in Time to trade the work clothes for desert camo (Darin Cook)

For the kind words and prayers. It is an honor to be honored on the Wall. Can't wait to meet Darin. It will be nice to have a wet head to chat with. When I was in Iraq last time I went into a central heating plant that had been blown up. There stood three blown out Viessmann boilers. I had to wait three months to tell someone. The buildings all had panel radiators w/TRV's. We have colder and longer winters and still cant get customers to spring for the good stuff. It is sad that the US will probably rip them all out and install new scorched air systems. If I see any neat stuff I will try to get a picture and post when I return. Joe
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