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Combustion test

@ February 11, 2013 5:20 PM in Convert only the oil burner head to gas?

I have installed several Wayne gas burners the past year and one thing is for sure you must perform a combustion test to get these running at peek efficiency.  Installing any kind of combustion equipment is not a simple "bolt on" installation.

air test

@ May 9, 2012 8:35 PM in off topic , air testing drains

Mark, I will stand by my original comment. If what A.J said is correct then this inspector  is being unrealistic. The time and money it will take him to find, purchase, and then go back and perform the air test is not justified. He will end up loosing money on the job just to pacify the inspector.
 Second, I treat code enforcement as they treat me and to be honest I have no problem with most.  As far as the bad ones, I can go on all night with stories of stupidity and nonsense. 

air test

@ May 9, 2012 8:36 AM in off topic , air testing drains

That sounds like a typical inspector on a power trip who likes nothing more than to waste our valuable time.  For him to make you go through all that trouble just to test 10' of pipe confirms he is in fact an idiot.

service magic

@ April 26, 2012 5:18 PM in servicemagic

They called me just last week to register with them, I didn't go for it.

answer the question

@ March 30, 2012 8:13 AM in Steam or water system for old Hotel

Jamie again I ask. Have you ever installed a modulating condensing boiler?  

More bad info

@ March 29, 2012 7:34 PM in Steam or water system for old Hotel

Jamie, have you ever installed a Mod Con boiler?  I would like to know how you achieve these numbers.

Bad info

@ March 29, 2012 5:00 PM in Steam or water system for old Hotel

"A modcon is more efficient, but only when it is operating condensing; year round it might beat steam by a couple of percent.  Not more"
 How many Mod Cons have you installed that brought you to this conclusion? I found in all of my installations my customers saved  30% minimum in gas consumption.


@ March 27, 2012 7:07 PM in Triangle Tube Trimax

I installed a Trimax 110 about three week back. Much better than old control no codes plain text for setting up parameters. Can control two zone pumps and DHW with no need for external relays plus each zone can have its own reset curve.
 Only gripe with new control would be the text on control display is very small in standby mode.

costly tools

@ May 4, 2011 6:23 PM in PEX Installer Preferences

This is the one thing I hate about pex. Most manufactures have their own proprietary system for joining fittings.  It  would be nice if companies sold the tools at cost to the pros. Remember the cost of the tools comes out of my pocket.

Triangle Tube

@ November 13, 2010 9:54 AM in New Knight design

Looks like  a Triangle Tube heat exchanger to me.

steam to water

@ March 31, 2010 6:34 PM in steam to forced water

Converting radiators from steam to hot water is fairly easy. I think Oventrop makes a special valve to convert 1 pipe steam to two pipe hot water. I have done several conversions over the years with great success. A mod con boiler with a home run to each radiator is very simple and very efficient.


@ March 17, 2010 5:56 PM in Looking for feedback from this board please

Sometimes I can't buy Quality American products. My supplier will not stock certain items that are American made. Some of this is due to manufactures rep politics. I see wholesalers make decisions based on who  the rep is rather than the product itself. 
 Most of the imports cost me the same but the wholesaler is making a larger profit margin or, even more enticing, a big kickback at the end of the year. Keep in mind I always make every effort to buy American made products when I can. I would never knowingly buy a foreign product over an American product.


@ November 30, 2009 6:53 PM in Steam vs. Hot water vs. Air

There are also even more of us who have not encountered that very thing. It is a disservice to the trade to make statements like "when one of your conversions goes bad- and it will" or "if the radiators don't leak they will".


@ November 30, 2009 5:54 PM in Steam vs. Hot water vs. Air

I agree with Jamie's comments. I hope in the future when this topic comes up again, and it will, we can respond rationally. It does none of us any good to scare someone with claims of leaking radiators and salivating lawyers.
 Keep in mind many of the folks who view these post may be a potential  customer for some of us. It would be a shame to lose a nice job because of such harsh claims.

Read Post

@ November 28, 2009 10:57 AM in single pipe steam to hot water system

Read "Converting a Church to Hydro HE from steam" post.
I guess they don't know what their talking about either.

steam is good

@ November 27, 2009 10:39 PM in single pipe steam to hot water system

Hey I don't`advocate ripping all steam systems out. Quite honestly I love piping steam boilers. In the last 20 years I have only converted about 10 systems over to hot water for various reasons and I normally install about 7 to 10 steamers per year. I am only stating my personal experience with hot water conversions.Many of you claim that all of the rads will leak. All I'm saying is that I never had a rad leak in all of the conversions I have done. Now that's not to say the possibility does not exist form this to happen, but any part of the heating system can fail prematurely.
 As far as efficiency goes I will not get in to a debate over this, but what I can say is that when replacing an 82% gas hot water boiler with a Mod/con I am seeing a 30% reduction in consumption. This is a fact.

Still works

@ November 27, 2009 4:40 PM in single pipe steam to hot water system

Listen, we can debate this for weeks with the same conclusion. Your obviously single minded in this subject. You just can't accept the fact that there are thousands of steam to hot water conversions out there and working fine. Your mind is already made up that the rads will leak and it is a bad idea, with no on site knowledge of the particular job in question. I'm not saying that there is not a potential for a problem, but it's not right to say that all conversions will result in disaster. You just don't know that from reading a message board post and it's unfair of you to say.
 As for why replace a steam system. The last one I converted for the following reasons 1. The 175,000 BTU  boiler had to be replaced(boiler was right size for load). 2. Chimney was bad new steamer would have to be power vented. 3. All wet returns were shot needed replacement. 4. Homeowner wanted boiler relocated from its current location in middle of basement to rear of basement steam mains had to be altered. 5. Two rads on first floor had to be relocated for remodeling, more piping alterations. 6. Homeowners did not want exposed steam risers to second floor rads. 7. $1500.00 tax credit sweetened the deal .
The new system consist of Triangle Tube 110 gas boiler with 40 gal indirect. I ran 1/2 and 3/8 pex to all rads from a manifold near boiler(all home runs). Design temp is 160  at 0  with 35 degree delta T. Most of the time in normal weather it is sending out 130 to 140 degree water with 100 to 110 return temps, lots on condensate. The boiler usually modulates at around 50%. This is a very efficient system and the owners love it.
And Charlie I am having fun, my premiums are paid up, and I am sure I will  sleep very well tonight knowing your concerned thank you.

It works

@ November 27, 2009 9:16 AM in single pipe steam to hot water system

First off if any of you do not want to perform a conversion to hot water then fine, don't, but please stop with the nonsense of radiators leaking and the stupid comments of lawsuits. Like I said I have converted many radiators to hot water over the years with no problems.
 Second  a mod/con boiler with an indirect water heater connected to radiators is one of the most efficient systems out there. On all jobs I do a complete heat loss and the rads are always large enough to work with hot water. Most times I run a max temp of 160 with a 30 to 40 delta T ,very efficient.
 Third if this is what a homeowner wants what do you care you're not responsible for anything. The same people have some sort of bizarre fetish with steam and get personally offended if someone wants to remove it. 

Tapping radiator

@ November 25, 2009 5:08 PM in single pipe steam to hot water system

It is very easy to drill and tap the radiator for proper air venting on a hot water system. There is usually a spot on the top part of the radiator that has a dimple in the casting for a vent. A sharp bit will drill the iron quickly.
 Also, I have converted many radiators from steam to water and have not had one leak. I have no idea why the same few people try to scare everyone who wants to convert radiators to hot water. I just converted a one pipe steam to hot water and the system works great! I ran 1/2 and 3/8 pex to 10 cast iron radiators  connected to a mod/con boiler. Very simple very efficient and NO LEAKS!!

No Problem

@ July 23, 2009 11:43 PM in convert a steam boiler into a hot water boiler

Yes you read right the first time "NO Problems". Just because you choose not to do these conversions does not mean that they can't work. I have done several replacements with Mod-con boilers that work great. They heat well, save money, and limitless zoning. Keep in mind I have no problem with a good steam system, they do work well. However, it does get very costly when you have to change boiler, retun piping, all vents, and any problems with steam mains. There are thousands of steam to hot water conversions out there so please stop trying to scare everyone who is thinking of this. ALso, stop with sarcastic "have a good lawyer" crap. If you don't want to do these installs then don't, but don't get bent out of shape because myself and other pro's perform these installs well with NO problems.

Steam rads

@ July 23, 2009 5:21 PM in convert a steam boiler into a hot water boiler

I have converted many steam radiators to hot water with no problem what so ever. To say all radiators converted to hot water will leak is a silly statement. Every time a home owner asks about converting to hot water I see the same silly posts about if you do this your doomed. Its about time to stop with this negative attitude.


@ May 18, 2009 1:37 PM in REHAU O2 barrier = squeaky?

Yes it is true Rehau pipe is terribly noisy in a staple up or any surface it comes in contact with(Wood floor joist,ect.). I know first hand I have used it on a few jobs including my own house for radiant ceiling. I wish I had never used it for that. I did use the Rau-panel system for my first floor and it works great with no noise at all. With that system once the finished floor is installed the tubing can't move. One other outdoor reset does NOTHING to combat the expansion noise of the pex. For staple ups the pipe sucks.
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