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Re: waiting for equilibrium

@ February 26, 2014 9:06 PM in Has anyone ever heard of this?

If the bond between the members has been broken, it's a huge issue. Like taking a cutting torch to vertical member of a steel I-beam.


@ February 26, 2014 11:55 AM in Need Help - New Gas Boiler for Steam System Problems

It looks like the system risers come off the side of the "header"( I use the term lightly). That will make for a surging spitting system, no matter how clean it is. You need some help with that system. Bring in a steam pro and let them go over the whole system. They can tell you exactly what should be done.


@ February 26, 2014 11:36 AM in Has anyone ever heard of this?

Only the upper floor in the dwelling? Maybe a clue in there. Was there any investigation into that specific case, or are they just searching for a credible accomplice?

Really Slowwwww

@ February 25, 2014 10:30 PM in Has anyone ever heard of this?

Maybe you could bring the temperature up slowly enough that the problem would not become apparent until the home warranty expires. Can we cut through the BS, and apply just a little common sense. I've driven a lot of 12 pennies into soaking wet lumber. So wet, you got a splat every time you drove the nail home.They drop the lumber load on the day they are suppose to. If the skies open up, fifteen minutes later, and no one covers the load....guess what.

And there they go!

@ February 25, 2014 5:01 PM in Gasoline from Natural Gas?

Watch the natural gas prices go way up if they go forward with that.


@ February 23, 2014 9:13 AM in Pressuretrols

      I find it amazing that they are still using the pressuretrols with the micro-switch in them. It is a horribly outdated technology. They are inconsistent, and unreliable.Using them in control circuits 35 yrs ago, they proved useless for repeatability.
        I guess unreliable is a wrong description. They will shut the system off, at some point. With the technology today, why don't they use something else?


@ February 22, 2014 8:46 PM in Thermostat calling for heat; boiler does not come on

Push down?


@ February 22, 2014 8:24 PM in Thermostat calling for heat; boiler does not come on

Closer....that's  .1 and .5


@ February 21, 2014 1:39 PM in taco zone relay constant hum sound

Joe is from Taco, the manufacturer of the relay. If he says you will not have a problem with the replacement, trust him, and give him a call.


@ February 21, 2014 12:10 PM in taco zone relay constant hum sound

We see complaints here, all the time. One of the only manufacturers that will always respond to a complaint, and go "above and beyond" to make it right, and do the right thing, is Taco. Joe, you and your company are to be commended. Here's to a U.S. manufacturer that cares!


@ February 21, 2014 11:45 AM in taking a hot water zone off of a steam boiler

At some point air got pumped into the zone. Since it is not pressurized, there is no way to get the air out. Use garden hoses to power purge it. This will deal with the issue at hand, not the ongoing problems it will have.

Porch Conversion

@ February 21, 2014 11:21 AM in Not Enough Radiation?

The thickness of the wall in the photo, suggests they may have built walls within walls. I read a posting here( to which someone from Burnham was responding) that stated that just stacking convectors produced little difference in output, because it just created interference to convective air flow. The addition of the fans would counteract that though. I don't know how you would calculate the output of the modified emitter, other than trial and error. Without a proper heat loss,there is no way of knowing whether you could get close to correct by just increasing the output of the existing enclosures.

At Best

@ February 21, 2014 10:10 AM in Not Enough Radiation?

The output of those elements will be similar to those of standard baseboards. You need to do a heat loss for the room. Try as you may, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear". 

Wet Base

@ February 19, 2014 9:49 PM in Pictures of existing system that needs replacement

      Wet base boilers weigh close to double, but that thermal mass is a good thing. If I remember correctly, my 5 section series 8 was 750lbs skidded. I lowered it off my pickup with a die table I borrowed from work. Got it hanging over the basement stairs in the Bilco door. Then tied braided nylon rope to the skid and the back of my truck. I tied the rope taught, then got in the truck. I put it in neutral and put my foot on the brake. I told my buddy to push it, so it teetered down the stairs, and get out of the way. I heard this ZING and then I could feel the weight pulling the truck. I eased up on the brake and the truck moved back about 6 inches.
     I failed to consider a couple things...the change in direction meant the rope got loose, and the nylon rope stretches a lot. I knew it wouldn't break. My buddy said it was unbelievable. It took off down the stairs like a shot, then slowed down and stopped about 6 inches above the basement floor. We stopped and had a couple beers after that one.


@ February 18, 2014 6:54 PM in Steam boiler replacement quote

Was that 6 inches? My monitor gets too blurry to distinguish one or two hash marks. Or, maybe it's my eyes.


@ February 18, 2014 11:30 AM in Steam boiler replacement quote

Bob......Different wording...same message.


@ February 18, 2014 11:28 AM in Steam boiler replacement quote

        I think the amazing part, is that he was unable to find anything wrong with the existing system.....Nothing! Just connect it to the existing piping, cut him a check, then try to find him. I think the most important thing, should be the statement...The boiler will be installed to manufacturers specification.There are postings here daily, from folks that have boilers hooked up exactly as you were quoted. The boiler are not even skimmed ,hooked up to existing piping with no header, or no equalizer. The mains have sags in them, and no main vents.
     If the contractor will not sit down and discuss the whole system with you.....Show him the door.

New Valve

@ February 16, 2014 8:00 PM in clanking sounds

The neighbor had his valve replaced. I'll bet they jacked the radiator, and lost its pitch.

Carbon Monoxide

@ February 15, 2014 7:45 AM in New furnace started kicking after a season of quiet

Put a carbon monoxide detector in that basement.


@ February 13, 2014 5:44 PM in 2# gas line for 600, 000 BTU's

You have plenty of available gas.Order what you need (within the limitations of the meter), and the gas fitter will sort it out. If you have a regulated manifold, he may have to upsize the regulator, but it's all do-able.


@ February 13, 2014 3:34 PM in 2# gas line for 600, 000 BTU's

like you have 1/2 lb. in the house. For instance, I have 5 lbs up to my meter, and 1/2lb coming into the house. I have to size to 1/2 lb.


@ February 13, 2014 2:18 PM in Meet The Cozy

Have you ever taken apart a really old mechanism, and been amazed at how "beautifully simple" the design was? That's what you're striving for. I know it's not always possible, but you want people to look at your work, and say,"why didn't I think of that"?
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