Joined on October 13, 2004
Last Post on July 21, 2014
@ April 13, 2014 6:20 PM in disconnecting power to clean AC coils - why necessary?Lock out tag out.
@ April 13, 2014 6:18 PM in Can a Circulator Pump Past a Stopped Downstream Pump?To cancel out power used in the hydronic system. Even if it reclaimed something. System is circulating anyway.
@ April 12, 2014 8:06 PM in Are you in the market for a Thermal Imager?What they are doing is hacking software. Illegal.
Maybe you dont agree with how Flir pays for their R&D. I think its a brilliant move in manfacturing the camera. The only thing that changes is upgrade in software which is built in.
@ April 12, 2014 12:21 PM in Multicirculator/MultizoneBalance valves in that scenerio is a band aid for poor piping practice. You'll end up with poor performing pumps, and wasted energy. If that method would even work. Kind of a setup for unintended consequences. JMO
Edit: With little info, and no pics, I would also check the math on the circs in place.
@ April 12, 2014 7:25 AM in What do you think of when somebody says Hydronics?So what brought about the initiative Harvey?
How many head?
I still think the dairy farmer gets screwed for what we pay for a gallon of milk, and the work involved to get it off the farm. A 365 day a year job twice a day never stops. Tell your brother thank you for what he does.
@ April 11, 2014 10:37 PM in disconnecting power to clean AC coils - why necessary?Yes its weatherproof, but then not many people hang on to a condensor unit in the middle of a rain storm. Plus cleaning will probably throw water into undesirable places a rain would not reach. Its just a safe step to follow.
@ April 4, 2014 6:38 PM in Problems with Open radiant floor systemAnd I'm sure you are tired of hearing about open systems.
You seem to have educated yourself some what on this topic. Some points you are missing.
Legionella just loves the temperature you run your system at in the winter time. 130 plus degrees is what you need to eradicate legionella this takes a period of time the higher the temperature the less time needed. This lowers the bacteria population, and does not 100% eliminate it. Just brings it down to acceptable limits. Also while legionella does not bloom in 40-70 degree water it is ever present, waiting for the right conditions to propagate in your system.
While most healthy people may never contract it. The point is why take an unneeded risk to the added exposure. Much easier to contain a sole purpose domestic water system with considerably shorter runs of pipe than a combined system with much longer piping for bacteria to hang out.
Also how old is your system while it may be bio free now, think about decades from now. My radiant system is over 60 years old with 5000 feet of pipe it makes me want to yak at the thought of my fresh water being handed to me through all that pipe if it were an open system.
another thought is future owners, or visitors that may be handed your system with little knowledge of its possible health hazards. They may be the ones that are elderly, or have deficient immune systems.
@ April 1, 2014 12:05 AM in Hydronic radiant heating subtletiesYes you are correct about the slab taking some preheat time. Even if you did an over the top electric it would still take time. If usage patterns are not predictable then the gas heater would be the most responsive choice.
@ March 31, 2014 10:55 PM in Navien 240 combi installed - I have concernsHas a 1/4" kink in it from the street to the house that does not make a difference?
This could go everywhere. My point is if your using multiple fixture simultaneously you need volume to the fixtures the closer to the fixture you reduce down the better. It would drive me nuts to have to use one fixture at a time or there will be war crystal from the shower stall.
@ March 31, 2014 9:41 PM in Hydronic radiant heating subtletiesI would do both floor, and ceiling. Concrete with out tubing is a missed opportunity. Especially if bare feet are engaged. How high is the ceiling?
@ March 31, 2014 9:28 PM in Navien 240 combi installed - I have concernsI knew ther was a 1/2" bottle neck in there somewhere from the street to inside the house.
Still a little confused when you say 1/2" runs off the prv to the Navien. So the cold side is 1/2" to Navien, and all cold side on fixtures. So when you ran new 3/4" pex you tapped into the 1/2" for your distribution lines of 3/4, and then back down to 1/2" to the fixtures?
@ March 31, 2014 8:13 PM in Navien 240 combi installed - I have concerns1/2" from water meter feeding house either way the distribution line needs up sized to 3/4" min.
Im confused. By the op Around here when the city recons a street with new sewer, and water new water lines get run to the house. So maybe I'm misunderstanding when he said he had to dig up the line a few posts back.
@ March 31, 2014 6:30 PM in Navien 240 combi installed - I have concernsCmon really fellas You need the volume to go with the pressure. Only get so much through 1/2" pipe.
Paul where are you getting that high of GPM in 1/2" pipe of any type?
@ March 31, 2014 1:20 PM in Navien 240 combi installed - I have concernsYou will never have decent flow to multiple fixture simultaneously until you increase your line size from the main. I don't care how much city pressure you have. I would size 1" since you will be doing it.
@ March 31, 2014 6:01 AM in Navien 240 combi installed - I have concernsIs the problem. Are you sure about this?
@ March 30, 2014 7:48 PM in Hydronic radiant heating subtletiesAre wonderful, and would do well in sleeping areas.
Maybe supplement the bath with over the top electric radiant floors would be an elegant touch.
As for the cooling aspect you would still need a means of dehumidification (ductwork) with any radiant cooling method unless you live in a arid region of the country. San Francisco would not be so. All though the duct sizing would not be as large as a conventional FA system.
Sounds like you are headed down the right path for what you want. Question is would a radiant design be more or less cost effect ice than your mini split quote.
@ March 30, 2014 12:52 PM in Navien 100,000 btu heatingWhat you know to be true.
I think this has been covered numerous time on Navien threads.
@ March 30, 2014 11:07 AM in Radiant Roof snow melt ??Of those surfaces can last quite some time after sun set in the summer. I would love to see the performance of Mad Dogs driveway when he gets it operational.
@ March 30, 2014 11:00 AM in Navien 100,000 btu heatingWhat's the circ on the primary? Assuming the 011 is on the secondary.
I would trust calculated pump curves before gpm read out.
What's the takagi output?
1" copper will carry 72k with proper design flow rates, more if that's exceeded.
How is the snow melt operated weather responsive, manual?
11 loops each covers 168 sf. Loop lengths?
What's the deltas on primary, secondary? I would assume very wide.
At 5gpm the delta would be 74*
At 18.5 gpm the delta would be 20*
@ March 30, 2014 12:42 AM in Navien 100,000 btu heatingIs what ice is talking about he's just using an electrical resistance example. The bigger the pipe the less pump energy needed. It's not all about the btus pipes can carry. It's also about moving those btus efficiently through the pipe from point A to B.
Water, electricity, gases, and even vehicular traffic have certain parallels. That's the highway they travel.
@ March 29, 2014 6:32 PM in in floor heat with a cast iron boiler?Another option is radiant ceilings which will actually have more output. Give it some thought if you are removing ceilings.