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Gordy

Joined on October 13, 2004

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Added benifit of the glass material component

@ March 6, 2009 3:11 PM in Radiant windows: Hey M.E.

I'm guessing... When the research is all done that the conductive material used in the glass making process may be the actual component that is causing this r value benifit. It would not be the first time that a material designed for something has other unintentional benifits with in the invention, or completly outside its box. There is much we don't know right now to judge, with good reasoning. It just works, the mystery is why. I like mysteries. Gordy Gordy

Coatings ?

@ March 6, 2009 10:37 AM in Radiant windows: Hey M.E.

Not speaking for Mark but I don't think your example is that simple. I'm sure the type of glass, glass coatings, and event the actual SF of the glass can help to reflect that radiant energy where you want it to go, inside. I ahve no doubt this type of window can do what it claims. What concerns me is the cost of electricity to operate it at the temps needed to do something viable. If your utilities are cheap in your area no concern needed. But at 11 cents a kilowatt it starts to get pricey to operate a heat source like this....Unless solar PV can be integrated to suplement. Of course it also depends on the intended application. Total heating, maybe the north side of the dwelling only, or even maybe a sole room where majority of time is spent. I think its a great tool in the arsenal of radiant heating speacializing in low load situations, not a silver bullet. Gordy

Bob

@ March 4, 2009 6:33 PM in Radiant Cooling

Have you experimented with just using the water through the fan coils only? Just wondering how much the radiant role really plays if the fan coils are sized big enough for your house. System sounds green, and sweet though. The fan coils removing the humidity is key with that cold of water. I doubt you could use that cool of water through just straight radiant with out moisture associated problems. I seem to recall 65*. Gordy

Radiant, and humidity

@ February 28, 2009 7:02 PM in Humidification and Radiant

Is the radiant supplemental to the F/A or vice versa? Or is the F/A for cooling only? As a radiant homeowner I find no need to humidify in the winter time. One of the benifits of radiant heat. There is enough humidity from showers, cooking, laundry, and humans. Are they just running the F/A to humidifiy as a psycological passification? Gordy

Stimulus package in a nut shell

@ February 24, 2009 11:57 PM in Stimulus Package

Last year there were 139 million income tax returns filed. Take the trillion dollar stimulus package, and divide it amungst the tax bearing citizens, and that comes out to 7194.00 each. Thats what its costing each of us filing individuals to bail out, or stimulate how ever you want to put it. Stimulate sounds like less of an ecomomic blunder that was let to happen. We get to front 7200 bucks of the bail out with a 676.00 yearly return (13.00 a week). 1 trillion dollars weighs over 1 million tons (in dollar bills). A boeing 767-200's take off weight is 200 tons. We should have loaded 5000 767s with a trillion dollars, and let them fly back, and forth over the USA sprinkling money over the country. Hows that for stimulus. At least we would know where the money went. Oh wait thats not very green is it. Let me re calculate how many hot air ballons it would take. That would be more so it would also be better propagation of the money. Gordy

Nothing new

@ February 21, 2009 11:02 AM in Stimulus Package

That has been around for a while. Any government funded project has to be done with materials from the USA. Now the 25% cheaper you can use it could be something new. Gordy

One Creative

@ February 10, 2009 6:59 PM in my solar cup boileth over

Dude Hot Rod......I'm just sitting here picturing the transformation from imagination. The copper smith strikes again! A tea bag hanging out would put it farther over the top. Gordy

Never had a problem

@ February 10, 2009 6:22 PM in Chimney Cap or Not

With the standard mesh that comes with a SS chimney cap. About 1" to 1 1/4" diamond pattern. I do get bees in the flue sometimes. Boy they hate the first fire of the season. Gordy

What ever

@ February 10, 2009 4:37 PM in Chimney Cap or Not

You use make sure it keeps precipitation out, and vermits. Gordy

I agree Mark

@ February 9, 2009 9:46 PM in Where's Perry? Did he get banned?

I have worked with engineers, and designers all of my career. I'm acustom to long explainations when you are already to the point in your head. It takes patience, and my tongue has gotten swollen on ocassion. Sometimes ya just don't know how hot someone elses kitchen can get till you start cookin. No cats to skin. Gordy

Heatelator after thought

@ February 7, 2009 9:13 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

I could be wrong, but I believe that insert was an after thought to the original fireplace that was there. If you look at the picture that Kelly posted in her original thread the right hand vents appear to have brick behind the screens that do not match the pattern of the brick in the face. I think this was not original, and someone decided to open up the hearth to make room for this type of configuration. Not that it matters now. But its interesting to try and decipher the past improvements,or in this case disprovement. Glad to see things are happening been wondering what was going on to. Gordy

Comparisions like this are usless

@ February 6, 2009 7:00 PM in Therm usage

Unless you are all using the same formula to compare each other. Btus per HDD, per square foot. If you want to compare heating performance, or your structures. Gordy

Cherish

@ February 6, 2009 9:17 AM in My fathers toolbox

That bond Perry,sounds like this is not an easy time for you. Excellent story. Thanks for sharing it.....Tears! Gordy

TerryT

@ February 6, 2009 9:11 AM in Where's Perry? Did he get banned?

I agree Terry. I think Perry has really shed some light on the mod/con hipe. Before his posts there was a lot of speculation on why these HX's are failing.....Speculation. With his Knowledge he has shed some light on this problem. I have frequented this site all most daily for 9 years. No I'm not a Pro in this particular trade. I have learned a great deal about a second passion of mine from the posting here. Knowledge can be contributed from outside the box. If you can think that way. The thread Perry was verbally bashed on shed some light on who are the true professionals here. What defines a professional? Character does play into it. Gordy

Home Construction Practices

@ February 4, 2009 10:09 AM in Home Builder's Heating With Hot Air

Queen, Bravo for asking questions about mechanical components as a potential home buyer of new home construction! Take it an extra step. Ask about R values of walls, roof, and foundation (if even insulated). Ask about types of insulation. Fiberglass, spray foam, cellouse, ect. Ask about the r-value/ u-value of windows, and doors. Ask about framing technique, and the materials used. Was floor joists trusses, TJIs, BCIs,or dimensional lumber used. To many builders mask crap construction with the eye candy. The above mentioned hidden things will be with you the full length of ownership of the home. With the future of energy costs. The mechanics of a home are far more important then the visual effect. While some of these questions may seem over your head. Ask them, and write down the answers. Pay attention to the builders reactions. Bring your answers back here to desipher. There are people here that can help in those areas. Most pros here are "comfort specialists", and know the mechanics of construction practices needed to provide that comfort, and efficency. Gordy

Whats their usage pattern?

@ February 2, 2009 11:45 PM in Pool Heating with Mod/Con

I'm not a pro Josh, but I do own a pool with a hayward gas heater thats trated at 1/2* per hour. Do you really need to size for a 1* per hour rise? Unless they are the occasional user, and need to boost temps quickly. If all you need is to get out of opening season, and keep at a desired temp you could get away with half the btu output. 1/2* per hour is not bad when you are trying to keep a desired temp range for the season. BUT all this goes out the window if they don't cover the pool when not in use. Evaporation is the biggest btu hog of all. Gordy

Wow

@ February 1, 2009 3:41 PM in High Efficiency Paybacks

Tough crowd today. Is our favorite team not in the Super Bowl? Gordy

Scott, Singh, and Perry

@ February 1, 2009 9:43 AM in This goes to show how uncomfortable folks are in their homes.

The first house I built back in 87 was as Scott described Only my horizontal nailers were on the interior of the walls. That type of construction is really not what I would call "super insulated" now days. But its better then standard practices. The kicker to all of it was when I went to sell it. Potential buyers could have cared less if it were 8" walls or 2" all they cared about was the eye candy. The future, may be not to distant will be trying to get these crap dwellings that have been built this last boom, up to reasonable affordability to condition the spaces they encompass. This could pose a market for insulation, and a better window.....way better. Short of tearing them down, and starting over.... Or the family pack of snuggies I have to wonder how some of these new homes will fair in 50 to over 100 year old ranges if they are still standing. Gordy

Variable rate of savings

@ January 31, 2009 6:44 PM in Fuel savings versus thermostat setting

With outside temps.I have to agree with Foghorn. If, and only IF this were a straight foreword drop in setting, and not a battle of set back. 3 or 4% for a 3000.00 heating season is not much, and thats a hefty bill for an average home say 2500 Sqft. Divided by the 5 months 1/2 of Oct thru the 1/2 of Mar of the season depending on your location. But if that kind of savings keeps a family on budget so be it. Gordy

Variables

@ January 30, 2009 9:52 AM in example that setback doesnt always reduce gas usage

Have to agree with Big Ed on your calculations. Lots of variables to consider in your scenerio. The first one is an estimated reading. NICOR usually estimates every other month, unless you send in your own reading. This estimate is taken from last years usage. If the estimate is off one way or the other then it is made up the next reading. Then you need to weed out any other NG burning appliances that would be in the mix of the reafding. You say the floor level store front is not on the boiler, but was the temp in this area always the same? Being a store front was in, and out traffic the same? Solar Gain? I like to use a Btu per degree day per square foot formula. The most accurate way is to be able to put a timer on the boiler gas valve to time burner on times. Take the burner run time for a 24 hour period * the gross Input of the boiler = Btus for 24 hour period used. Btus used for 24 hour period / Degree days for the 24 hour period = Btus Per Degree Day. Btus per Degree Day / Square Feet of heated space = Btus per degree day per square foot of heated space. You can substitute (gross boiler output) with the (net boiler input or DOE heating capacity) to nock off what goes up the stack, and only to the dwelling. This formula not only tells what you are using for comparing an apples to apples scenerios, but also tells the performance of the envelope you are heating. Gordy

Asking questions

@ January 29, 2009 2:05 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

Kelly i presume you are calling the main flue the flue that services the boiler correct. If so that throws the Rumford theory out the window. There may not be enough clearance for the thermix insulation the whole run of the flue. Flue size is more important than the insulation. They may not have included gauge size of the liner due to the fact no one ever asks. Did you ask the company to explain your questions Kelly. I would be leary of over the phone answers about a chimney problem as far as company 3. Gordy

Asking questions

@ January 29, 2009 2:05 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

Kelly i presume you are calling the main flue the flue that services the boiler correct. If so that throws the Rumford theory out the window. There may not be enough clearance for the thermix insulation the whole run of the flue. Flue size is more important than the insulation. They may not have included gauge size of the liner due to the fact no one ever asks. Did you ask the company to explain your questions Kelly. I would be leary of over the phone answers about a chimney problem as far as company 3. Gordy
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