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Gordy

Gordy

Joined on October 13, 2004

Last Post on July 27, 2014

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One Creative

@ February 10, 2009 6:59 PM in my solar cup boileth over

Dude Hot Rod......I'm just sitting here picturing the transformation from imagination. The copper smith strikes again! A tea bag hanging out would put it farther over the top. Gordy

Never had a problem

@ February 10, 2009 6:22 PM in Chimney Cap or Not

With the standard mesh that comes with a SS chimney cap. About 1" to 1 1/4" diamond pattern. I do get bees in the flue sometimes. Boy they hate the first fire of the season. Gordy

What ever

@ February 10, 2009 4:37 PM in Chimney Cap or Not

You use make sure it keeps precipitation out, and vermits. Gordy

I agree Mark

@ February 9, 2009 9:46 PM in Where's Perry? Did he get banned?

I have worked with engineers, and designers all of my career. I'm acustom to long explainations when you are already to the point in your head. It takes patience, and my tongue has gotten swollen on ocassion. Sometimes ya just don't know how hot someone elses kitchen can get till you start cookin. No cats to skin. Gordy

Heatelator after thought

@ February 7, 2009 9:13 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

I could be wrong, but I believe that insert was an after thought to the original fireplace that was there. If you look at the picture that Kelly posted in her original thread the right hand vents appear to have brick behind the screens that do not match the pattern of the brick in the face. I think this was not original, and someone decided to open up the hearth to make room for this type of configuration. Not that it matters now. But its interesting to try and decipher the past improvements,or in this case disprovement. Glad to see things are happening been wondering what was going on to. Gordy

Comparisions like this are usless

@ February 6, 2009 7:00 PM in Therm usage

Unless you are all using the same formula to compare each other. Btus per HDD, per square foot. If you want to compare heating performance, or your structures. Gordy

Cherish

@ February 6, 2009 9:17 AM in My fathers toolbox

That bond Perry,sounds like this is not an easy time for you. Excellent story. Thanks for sharing it.....Tears! Gordy

TerryT

@ February 6, 2009 9:11 AM in Where's Perry? Did he get banned?

I agree Terry. I think Perry has really shed some light on the mod/con hipe. Before his posts there was a lot of speculation on why these HX's are failing.....Speculation. With his Knowledge he has shed some light on this problem. I have frequented this site all most daily for 9 years. No I'm not a Pro in this particular trade. I have learned a great deal about a second passion of mine from the posting here. Knowledge can be contributed from outside the box. If you can think that way. The thread Perry was verbally bashed on shed some light on who are the true professionals here. What defines a professional? Character does play into it. Gordy

Home Construction Practices

@ February 4, 2009 10:09 AM in Home Builder's Heating With Hot Air

Queen, Bravo for asking questions about mechanical components as a potential home buyer of new home construction! Take it an extra step. Ask about R values of walls, roof, and foundation (if even insulated). Ask about types of insulation. Fiberglass, spray foam, cellouse, ect. Ask about the r-value/ u-value of windows, and doors. Ask about framing technique, and the materials used. Was floor joists trusses, TJIs, BCIs,or dimensional lumber used. To many builders mask crap construction with the eye candy. The above mentioned hidden things will be with you the full length of ownership of the home. With the future of energy costs. The mechanics of a home are far more important then the visual effect. While some of these questions may seem over your head. Ask them, and write down the answers. Pay attention to the builders reactions. Bring your answers back here to desipher. There are people here that can help in those areas. Most pros here are "comfort specialists", and know the mechanics of construction practices needed to provide that comfort, and efficency. Gordy

Whats their usage pattern?

@ February 2, 2009 11:45 PM in Pool Heating with Mod/Con

I'm not a pro Josh, but I do own a pool with a hayward gas heater thats trated at 1/2* per hour. Do you really need to size for a 1* per hour rise? Unless they are the occasional user, and need to boost temps quickly. If all you need is to get out of opening season, and keep at a desired temp you could get away with half the btu output. 1/2* per hour is not bad when you are trying to keep a desired temp range for the season. BUT all this goes out the window if they don't cover the pool when not in use. Evaporation is the biggest btu hog of all. Gordy

Wow

@ February 1, 2009 3:41 PM in High Efficiency Paybacks

Tough crowd today. Is our favorite team not in the Super Bowl? Gordy

Scott, Singh, and Perry

@ February 1, 2009 9:43 AM in This goes to show how uncomfortable folks are in their homes.

The first house I built back in 87 was as Scott described Only my horizontal nailers were on the interior of the walls. That type of construction is really not what I would call "super insulated" now days. But its better then standard practices. The kicker to all of it was when I went to sell it. Potential buyers could have cared less if it were 8" walls or 2" all they cared about was the eye candy. The future, may be not to distant will be trying to get these crap dwellings that have been built this last boom, up to reasonable affordability to condition the spaces they encompass. This could pose a market for insulation, and a better window.....way better. Short of tearing them down, and starting over.... Or the family pack of snuggies I have to wonder how some of these new homes will fair in 50 to over 100 year old ranges if they are still standing. Gordy

Variable rate of savings

@ January 31, 2009 6:44 PM in Fuel savings versus thermostat setting

With outside temps.I have to agree with Foghorn. If, and only IF this were a straight foreword drop in setting, and not a battle of set back. 3 or 4% for a 3000.00 heating season is not much, and thats a hefty bill for an average home say 2500 Sqft. Divided by the 5 months 1/2 of Oct thru the 1/2 of Mar of the season depending on your location. But if that kind of savings keeps a family on budget so be it. Gordy

Variables

@ January 30, 2009 9:52 AM in example that setback doesnt always reduce gas usage

Have to agree with Big Ed on your calculations. Lots of variables to consider in your scenerio. The first one is an estimated reading. NICOR usually estimates every other month, unless you send in your own reading. This estimate is taken from last years usage. If the estimate is off one way or the other then it is made up the next reading. Then you need to weed out any other NG burning appliances that would be in the mix of the reafding. You say the floor level store front is not on the boiler, but was the temp in this area always the same? Being a store front was in, and out traffic the same? Solar Gain? I like to use a Btu per degree day per square foot formula. The most accurate way is to be able to put a timer on the boiler gas valve to time burner on times. Take the burner run time for a 24 hour period * the gross Input of the boiler = Btus for 24 hour period used. Btus used for 24 hour period / Degree days for the 24 hour period = Btus Per Degree Day. Btus per Degree Day / Square Feet of heated space = Btus per degree day per square foot of heated space. You can substitute (gross boiler output) with the (net boiler input or DOE heating capacity) to nock off what goes up the stack, and only to the dwelling. This formula not only tells what you are using for comparing an apples to apples scenerios, but also tells the performance of the envelope you are heating. Gordy

Asking questions

@ January 29, 2009 2:05 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

Kelly i presume you are calling the main flue the flue that services the boiler correct. If so that throws the Rumford theory out the window. There may not be enough clearance for the thermix insulation the whole run of the flue. Flue size is more important than the insulation. They may not have included gauge size of the liner due to the fact no one ever asks. Did you ask the company to explain your questions Kelly. I would be leary of over the phone answers about a chimney problem as far as company 3. Gordy

Asking questions

@ January 29, 2009 2:05 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

Kelly i presume you are calling the main flue the flue that services the boiler correct. If so that throws the Rumford theory out the window. There may not be enough clearance for the thermix insulation the whole run of the flue. Flue size is more important than the insulation. They may not have included gauge size of the liner due to the fact no one ever asks. Did you ask the company to explain your questions Kelly. I would be leary of over the phone answers about a chimney problem as far as company 3. Gordy

Not

@ January 27, 2009 12:01 AM in Black steel pipe in concrete

Sorry I don't buy the concrete rotting steel pipe. I have tore down bridges from the 20's with rebar as pristine as the day it was installed. The only places with rust on the rebar were due to cracks in the concrete allowing road salts to penetrate to the rebar. If concrete mixtures were the issue reacting with bare steel they would have done something different along time ago in that spectrum. Epoxy coated rebars purpose is to protect the rebar from road salt when the concrete fails. This allows for the concrete to be replaced with out sacrificing structural integrity. Levitown radiant slab failures were due to the effects of alkaline to copper. Some soils even react to copper. Gordy

Not a Rumford design

@ January 24, 2009 10:39 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

Ken. Kelly showed a pic of their fireplace in her initial thread. With a Rumford the sides of the back are angled more, and it is shallow to reflect more heat into the room. Could be a feable attempt to produce a Rumford effect. Gordy

Now there is...

@ January 24, 2009 6:24 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

A professional chimney inspection!! Spelled it all out in detail what is wrong with the chimney, cause/effect of things being wrong, and how to correct them!! Sometimes it takes a couple of tries, but that is what to look for in a professional as a homeowner. Gordy

Hard water

@ January 22, 2009 10:27 PM in Water Quality question (ME)

Sounds like all the makings for itchy skin to me. Where I live the city water is 28 grains which is hard. I don't know how that converts to mg/l. All I know is when I run out of salt the women of the house know before I do. They claim all sorts of funny reactions from hair not going right to itchy skin rashes. I use a Water Boss love it been trouble free for about 8 years now. only regenerates as needed for demand. Gordy

Road Blocks

@ January 22, 2009 10:18 PM in I seem to have a lack of oxygen in the house...UPDATE..

Kelly don't get discouraged. These road blocks are actually ruling out variables that can help narrow things down to more specifics. You know now the boiler does not have a breach above the water line. You know that Norm has ruled out improper combustion, draft ect. You know that the boiler uses an outside air supply which helps rule out exhaust fans ect. taking combustion air from the boiler. You have installed a properly placed CO detector that is not going off....Right. What you really don't know is the specific condition of the chimney. You have a second party looking into that so lets see what they say. Hang in there, look at the bright side...... At least you are saving fuel ;) Sorry that probably was not to funny. Gordy

Comfort

@ January 20, 2009 11:36 PM in Triangle Tube 110

EJ, You have to ask yourself some questions. Did you do a heatloss for your house? If yes then is your present radiation sized big enough for the heatloss. Are you able to get to room set point? Once it gets to set point does it maintain it? Have you made improvements to your home? If that answer is yes, that would mean if the radiators were sized for the old envelope then they will be able to run cooler water temps now. If they were sized right to begin with. What Rob is trying to tell you, is the way to get the most efficiency out of your new boiler possible,yet maintain comfort. That is why you bought a TT 110 right? Gordy
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