Joined on July 1, 2009
Last Post on November 24, 2013
@ November 24, 2013 6:07 PM in BURNHAM BASE- RAY & One-Pipe Steam SystemI like that convector in your photo. Looks like it may have mor EDR than my baserays. But alas, I'm just a homeowner who has to work with what limited experience I have. B ut in, my case no dumb luck involved, I can crunch numbers and figure out what I need. Well, that is not true. If I had not lucked into this site some nine years ago I wouldnt have had a clue. Thanks to all who have helped me! I have hand threaded my last pipe this weekend on my system. It works like a charm.
It wasnt completely perfect. Turning a two pipe system into a hybrid, i learned something...You really have to flush your boiler because that microbial stink from boiler water and oil that sits over during the non heating system will vent into the house and piss of the wife! I think next summer, I will relocate baseboard vents to the crawl space where it wont be so offensive. Maybe.
I dont do this for a living because it is hard work. I did this project because there are no steam geniuses around here. I work hard , physically, in my career, but to work even harder on my rare time off was brutal!
@ November 23, 2013 8:00 PM in BURNHAM BASE- RAY & One-Pipe Steam SystemSilent heating. No issues; No surprises.
@ November 18, 2013 6:56 PM in BURNHAM BASE- RAY & One-Pipe Steam SystemMike.
but I'm reading the last couple pages of chapter 7 and it says to do what I' m doing. I think I' m reading it correctyl but it wouldnt be the first time I read something wrong. We'll find out next week if I didn't!
@ November 18, 2013 6:48 PM in BURNHAM BASE- RAY & One-Pipe Steam Systemthink "P" trap.
@ November 17, 2013 8:33 PM in BURNHAM BASE- RAY & One-Pipe Steam Systemsteam in one end, condensate out the other end down 30" per pound of system pressure and back up to the bottom of the main where it trickles backt to the boiler. I'll let you know how it works in a week or so.
Disclosure: I'm a homeowner.
@ November 13, 2013 8:20 PM in Testing a 15psi pressure safety valve on my steam boilerturn boiler on to build pressure. lift lever and it should release steam/water. dont burn yourself. if nothing is happening, buy a new one and replace it. repeat test.
@ November 7, 2013 8:20 PM in Better to Undersize or Oversizeyou feel trespassed on. but this is an educating site.
@ November 7, 2013 9:13 AM in Better to Undersize or OversizeResidential steam heating is dying. Every year, I see homes gutted for remodelling with radiators stacked to the side of dumpsters waiting for their trip the the scrap metal yard. Pros in residential steam heat are disappearing. In North Carolina, they dont exist. That's why the book is titled the Lost Art of Steam heat. We love to hear from the pro's and appreciate their feed back.
My project of restoring a residential, 1930 Trane vapor system wouldnt be possible without this site. In fact, because we lack pro's down here, I had a furnace/central air system put in when my boiler original boiler cracked. But my love for steam heat and knowledge that is is the best available made me take on the project of restoring it.
I always try to add to the bottom of my posts a disclosure that I am a home owner so the OP can validate the value of my posts. But on this one, I will add an additional disclosure:
Disclosure: I am a homeowner, but professionally, I am responsible for the safety,maintenance, efficient combustion and continuous improvement of:
Three 600HP Hurst Boilers, five 400HP Cleaver Brooks, Two 200HP Kewanees, and three C-B 3000 hot water boilers.
This site helped me save a piece of history. I will use my experience from that project to pay it forward.
Y'all can start hitting the "Thank You" button any time now ; )
@ November 5, 2013 3:36 PM in Help Evaluating a QuoteThe important thing is piping in accordance with manufacturers guidelines. If he does that, the installation would be warranteed by the manufacturer. He probably doesnt want to price himself out of a job by using two risers, a drop header and larger pipe. He may be right. It may be a waste of money.
I done my installation myself and it is expensive and a lot of work. You'd have to pay for that. If you have money to burn, go for it. Ask for a requote.
If you did not have water hammer issues with your current boiler and he does a good install, you should not have water hammer with new boiler. He is right, he cant warrantee old pipe, traps , vents and radiators. It cant be his responsibility. That would be a separate service call.
As for guaranteeing comfort, forget about it for the reasons in the third paragraph. Trying to replace my mothers furnace in nyc, I scared off a half dozen contrators with that comfort clause. I told them I dont care how big or how small, it just has to maintain 72 on a 30 degree day without short cycling. Cue the crickets.
You have done your homework. Sounds like his recommended boiler is a good size for what you plan to do in the future, so go for it. Just set aside extra money for traps, vents and sagging pipes in case that causes problems.
@ November 5, 2013 11:26 AM in Better to Undersize or Oversize1.Yes. You are very close to an exact match.
2. Yes-especially if well insulated. But if you are not, that that extra 33% pick up factor may actually make the smaller boiler slightly larger than what you need for those exceptionally cold days.
I should add: Disclosure-I am a homeowner
@ November 4, 2013 8:02 PM in Combustion Analysis - how does this look?the efficiency is for the burner only.
@ November 4, 2013 11:20 AM in Better to Undersize or OversizeHypothetically, you should go with the smaller boiler because it has an automatic pick up factor of 33% built in. If you are well insulated and have no plans to add radiation, you'll still be a measure larger than you need to be.
@ October 29, 2013 8:17 PM in Incredibly Loud Steam Heating Pipesit could be a simple solution but it could get worse. the following is directed at industrial steamers but some of it applies here
@ October 29, 2013 3:13 PM in Incredibly Loud Steam Heating Pipesbe as simple as bad or missing steam traps? A bad F&T or a droop in a main?
Excessive pressure? All relatively inexpensive to correct.
Disclosure: I'm a homeowner
@ October 24, 2013 8:34 PM in steam fittingyou went his far. May as well go all the way.
@ October 18, 2013 3:44 PM in thermastats for steam heatYou can place remote thermometers in typically cold apartments if you have control of t-stat. If it is 68 in your apartment and 58 in another, I think the tennant in the cold apartment deserves a break on rent.
@ October 18, 2013 3:36 PM in thermastats for steam heatThe nest is an expensive t'stat. But it works. If you have a smartphone and wifi in the house, you can see what's going on. You can even tell if the boiler has a fault preventing it from coming on. Want control remotely? Can be done. Does it save money? As much as any programmable t-stat will except you can control remotely and see what is going on. My brother recieved one as a gift. He loves it. I wouldnt spend that much myself.
@ October 18, 2013 2:53 PM in pressuretrol settings - are these right?The MAIN scale sets the boiler's cut off pressure. The DIFF. is subtracted from the MAIN to set the cut-in pressure.
These devices work well but they dont have great resolution on the low end. You need to adjust the main to 1.5psi and the DIFF to as low as practical- interpolate 1psi- so burner extinguishes at 1.5psi and re- lights when pressure is 0.5psi and will continue to do so until thermostat is satisfied.
Disclaimer: I am a homeowner.
@ October 16, 2013 7:54 PM in I just shake my head and leavebut go direct to your fire marshal. And consider notifying your dept. of labor.
@ October 9, 2013 11:32 AM in Want to hire someone for weekly maintenance of boiler/steam heat for season--what is involved?You should probably click on the 'find a contractor' above and have that company come out and do a pre-season inspection on your boiler to make sure it is safe and has been maintained. Simple, inexpensive things that are often ignored can yield decent fuel savings. Then they can show you or your handyman what needs to be done weekly.
My disclosure- I'm a homeowner. Not a pro
@ September 24, 2013 2:04 PM in connecting Burham BaseraysHi All,
I have an existing two pipe Trane vapor sytem with radiators in the original part of the house. We have had an addition built and I have mounted the base board heaters years ago but never connected them. Mostly because I have been busy and partly because it has been warm these past few years.
I am ready to connect them and have dusted of my LAOSH to refresh my memory. With regard to connecting base board rads, Dan seems to be saying I should vent and pipe the condensate down far enough in inches to match my operating pressure (9oz) and turn upward back into the supply and allow the condensate to drip back to the boiler thru the main like a one pipe system. That sounds too good to be true because it is less pipework, less time to install and less cost so I must be missing something. Am I? Thanks in advance.
@ September 10, 2013 10:21 PM in When switching from oil to gasIn nyc, is a chimney cleaning or chimney cleaning ANDinspecton required for an "affadavit" that would satisfy con edison? What exactly is this affadavit? Thanks