Heating Help

Taco zone valves

@ April 8, 2011 7:00 PM in Taco zone valves

Installed a Prestige boiler 3 winters ago with 2 Taco EBV zones.
The zone valves worked well for two years but have given me trouble this season.
They opened but refused to close. This left the customers home very warm when they returned. I manually reset the valve and cycled the stat and they seemed to be ok only to fail a few weeks later.( Both valves have done this, though at separate times).
I installed the valves 3 years ago although the date code seems to be a older. They must have been sitting on my wholesalers shelf for a few years.
Anyone else have trouble with these valves?

I can only speak of my own system

@ March 24, 2011 9:20 PM in savings from geothermal

My home is 2000 square feet, two floors with low temp radiant heat and a 38000 btu heat loss at 0 degrees. I was heating with wood up until Jan 1st and then I switched to the Geo unit, a three ton water to water single stage open loop with a outdoor reset in the buffer tank. The increase in my electric bill was 85 dollars in jan and 100 dollars in feb. February reflects a new increase per killowatt. I live in Reading Pa.

CSST

@ March 21, 2011 9:27 PM in Trac Pipe

Here is a website for a free youtube recorder...http://www.applian.com/freecorder4/
After you download it you can go to youtube and search csst. There are dozens of newscast and pics of homes burning down from this tubing. After you download them you will have a excellent tool to show potential customers why you dont install csst and why they should choose you, even if you cost more.
I already sold one job with these videos.

Iceland

@ March 21, 2011 5:56 PM in What a trip!

The only country who had the b*lls to stand up to the international banksters and default.
 My hat is off to Iceland...they must be an extremely intelligent group.

Nuke thing is so yesterday

@ March 20, 2011 2:28 PM in Japan Nuke plants

This week we have a new war and as a bonus this week.....another leak in the gulf http://www.examiner.com/environmental-news-in-tallahassee/potential-new-deep-water-oil-spill-gulf-of-mexico-100-mile-sheen-reported
Try to stay focused guys lol

Thats funny Brad

@ March 20, 2011 2:19 PM in Nipple laser

but not as funny as putting "nipple laser" in a google search. I never knew they did so many weird things with nipples and lasers  LOL

So your saying

@ March 20, 2011 1:32 PM in Trac Pipe

They should be checking for re-certification?

Nipple laser

@ March 20, 2011 12:17 PM in Nipple laser

Anyone familiar with a laser devise that screws into a 1/2 or 3/4 female thread and projects a laser. I saw one a while ago and cant locate one now.

Does that mean

@ March 20, 2011 12:05 PM in Trac Pipe

wholesalers who are selling to contractors who were certified in the ninetys are criminals?

Bonded ...Grounded

@ March 19, 2011 10:43 PM in Trac Pipe

it doesn't matter. It has never been tested and approved whether its bonded or not.
So its simple..just pretend its your wife and children sleeping in that home  during an evening thunderstorm. Just run black pipe and be done with it! It doesn't matter if its deep water drilling or nuclear reactors or the gas pipe in your home... do it right or just dont do it.

Not making fun

@ March 11, 2011 3:01 PM in Deadmen

Did more than most.
I gave him a job and maybe a future.

Different times Dan

@ March 11, 2011 9:52 AM in Deadmen

I didnt mean to infer that we dont need physiologist, or writers or even art history majors. But one Dan Holohan per 20000 trademen seems to work out well, imagine if it was the other way around.
I have a three year college student working with me now, English Major, he wanted to be an author and if that didnt work, the old fallback.. a school teacher.  Unfortunately that didnt work out like it did in the old days, add to that he is strapped with school debt.
I hope for the best but plan for the worst.

Bill, you forgot

@ March 11, 2011 9:10 AM in Deadmen

to mention all the young adults that now live in the parents basement after finding out degrees in Art history, psychology,or... get this, my favorite...Art therapy are worthless!
I think it will be over in a couple of years though, tough times ahead but I think it will weed out the chaff and bring a better society. I melt all that dead men lead into bullets and slugs.

No problem Tim

@ March 9, 2011 8:12 AM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

I , in no way intended to be nasty or cruel or in anyway consider myself to be your
"defeated foe". I think my attitude reflects years of boxing, whereas I get in the ring and try to break your face or I get my brains rattled and then we go get something to eat. Some guys are more sensitive, I don't think you are..I was feeling some pretty good sarcasm coming from you lol. I respect you and read and learn many things from your post.
Tony

Lightning testing on aircraft

@ March 8, 2011 6:02 PM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

Direct and indirect hits have to be tested thoroughly. Not only can they not blow holes in fuel lines but sensitive electronic equipment must continue to operate.
There is only one reason why they dont test it.. because it cant pass.
Could you imagine next time your flying through a thunderstorm and the pilot comes back and tells you that this model aircraft hasn't been tested for lightning strikes but we feel it should work. This company knows this, im sure they talk about this with their lawyers everyday. They are just putting corporate profits before human safety.

No problem Dan

@ March 8, 2011 9:05 AM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

If I am wrong, and Tim doesn't receive any money from any vested party whether indirectly or directly. I was wrong and I am sorry.

Tims a big boy

@ March 8, 2011 8:52 AM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

I think he can have a lively debate without being Patronized,Scott.
Getting back to this thread, it really doesnt matter what we think about csst. The jury has spoken. Im sure they were given a very detailed account from both sides.
Read the article....  Omegaflex also argued that a properly bonded CSST system could
withstand the energy produced from an indirect lightning strike. 
Omegaflex's failure to EVER TEST TracPipe’s ability to withstand such
energy, when properly bonded, proved fatal to its defense. ...Now why couldnt they prove that!! Why didnt they do a test before.
So the way I understand it is...Bond all you want, its not even proven that it works!! How can a company that spent so much on making the pipe that you didnt even need special tools to put it together just let it slip their minds about the bonding test?

What are you saying!

@ March 7, 2011 11:17 PM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

Are you saying Plexo is number one because they made plexvent? Are you saying that because they made a bad product they are still number one. I dont know where your going with this Tim.  You better get some sleep Tim, you defended the csst people admirably, Im sure your checks will continue to come in.

Check out ebay

@ March 7, 2011 10:55 PM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

Mark, check out ebay. CSST .. all you want. I dont think they even ask for a note from your mom, they just send it right to your door. Every apartment owners dream.

Tim

@ March 7, 2011 10:51 PM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

Consider the fact that 98 % of the country is warm air. Do you really believe that all those condensing furnaces are going to be installed with AL294C, dont hold your breath!
 I want to thank you for making me look a little deeper into this csst ordeal. I downloaded the videos on my laptop to show potential customers what we Dont use! I think this will seal up a few jobs.
I might add before going after the pvc on condensing units, start small and first get it off the non condensing power vent water heaters.
Im not trying to bust your bubble here Tim I was just trying to bring a little truth here with some videos of whats going on with this product, real people , real fires, real out of court settlements. I also searched for lawsuits and deaths from pvc venting and Im sorry but I just couldnt find any. Do you know of any?? Please post them.

Tim

@ March 7, 2011 9:35 PM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

Settling out of court for millions without accepting liability. Crap tubing, Crap companies. Just another bunch of liars and thieves.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2uI_GYXWyU&feature=related. By the way, while searching through a multitude of these videos and articles on csst I couldn't seem to find a single incident with failed PVC.

Stand back and look at the big picture

@ March 6, 2011 4:21 PM in Jury Rules That CSST is a Defective Product

Our piping is carrying flammable gas into the living structure. The same place where children and pets and loved ones live and sleep. We know for a fact that black steel has a life span of over a hundred years. Even in basements where women hang their clothes to dry on the gas pipe, kids practice riding their bicycles and whatever else people do in their homes that inadvertently require the use of gas pipe as a hanger or hold. I'm not saying I approve of these things but we have all seen it.
So explain to me what advantage this csst is for your customer! Really... did it save them tons of money because an apprentice could do it instead of a fitter? How many millions of feet of this stuff are in before they told us to bond it? Does it really make you feel better knowing your customers lives are betting on a ground wire that could corrode or inadvertently be disconnected and will probably never be tested to begin with or ever afterwords.  Nah Ill stick to using steel for my customers and ill sleep a little better at night. Ill be more than happy to remove this crap and put it in the same pile as the ultravent and plexvent. Two more of the advancements you forgot to mention.