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Another one in Maine

@ June 10, 2014 8:29 PM in Steam-Heated Hotel!

We visited this hotel in dead of winter, it was shut down for the season. My son and his wife (fiance at the time). We were escorted in with the owner thru the maintenance/boiler room. It was like something out of famous Stephen King movie.

At the time they had steam, and each room had a radiator with TRV. I has a little time to look at the boiler room. I could not believe the massive amount of piping/old boilers. No insulation, but it was all painted white.

We didn't choose this place for a variety of reasons.

Looks much different now than it did 5 years ago.

Summer shutdown notes

@ June 3, 2014 7:55 PM in Summer shutdown notes

Well after a brutal, long, cold, winter & spring here in Maine I finally got to summer shutdown.

Still need to get my service Tech over for burner check.

Burned a lot of NG this year, but we were warm.

My VXT measured between 1 & 2 gallons of make up water.

Flushed boiler, and 2 condensate sections for about 3 hours, water was finally nice and clear.

I would like to of tried the WAND TECHNIQUE but I was gun shy on taking out the bottom plug. I tried, but will wait for the Tech. who knows and has the right wrench.

Thanks again for years of valuable insight, and Dan's Books.
Pass on your knowledge, to other steamers, no matter what your knowlwdge.

Picture link test

@ March 2, 2014 7:29 PM in Pictures of existing system that needs replacement

I think I figured out the link problem.

Can I get test from the field please.



@ February 20, 2014 2:51 PM in Pictures of existing system that needs replacement

I have to make a "Gallery" like you did to attach to that link. I'll try again.

Picture link, Chris

@ February 20, 2014 9:04 AM in Pictures of existing system that needs replacement

Tried it this AM, seemed to work ok for me, that's a mystery.

Wet Based WM with Riello Gas Burner

@ February 19, 2014 11:28 AM in Pictures of existing system that needs replacement

Hi KC,
Just a homeowner, here is my wet based SGO 4 Steamer.

I put a Riello Gas burner on it, OK'd by Manf. not to null the warranty.

This is the way to go, wet based, NG, most important. GET IT SIZED RIGHT.

You will read that on here over & over.

Next get a set of Dan's books on steam, on EDR or radiators, and STUDY them.

I have a link below to my install pictures also.

Good Luck.

Wika Gauges

@ January 27, 2014 3:07 PM in Pressure Gauge Not Moving

I would waste anymore money on these Wika gauges.

These are, very well promoted on this Web site?????

I have not had good luck with their instruments.

There are much better low pressure gauges on the Web.

My usage

@ January 16, 2014 9:18 AM in How much water do you use?

Thanks for this reviving this link.

Here in Maine really cold December, and 1st week of January.

My Boiler ran a lot in Dec. I was constantly monitoring the water level.

I am very pleased this January, no water added. I am maintaining the same level.

The only change that I can link to this is, i took off all my Hoff.1A's in the Fall.

I checked them out, retaped them and put them back on. I think I put them back on with more tape, and they are TIGHTER this year for sure.

My Hoff 1A's have performed wonderfull. I like the adjustable/balance feature of these vents.

Cycles Per Hour "CPH"

@ December 16, 2013 8:31 PM in Cycles Per Hour "CPH"

I all, once again need some help with terminology and how to correctly apply it.

Can someone explain what (cycles per hour) mean please?

Also, how do I apply this to cph to my thermostat?

What would be the advantage of going from my 1 CPH now, as it set on t'stat to a setting of 2 CPH?

Thanks again for the advice and guidance.

Keep it simple

@ December 15, 2013 8:09 PM in A different Thermostat question

Thanks Jamie,
My first thought on this was just what you suggested. I was not sure on how the 2 simple thermostats would interact together.

Let me ask you this question, If the 2 thermostats have an "off" & "on" feature, could I just turn the dining room t'stat off when I was using the coal stove in the dining room?

Thanks again

A different Thermostat question

@ December 15, 2013 7:49 AM in A different Thermostat question

Hi, I would like to set up dual thermostat set up for these reasons.
Let me just set up the situation.
My simple round no mercury digital honeywell in in my dining room. 6 feet away from a small coal stove that we like to use in the winter. Problem, coal stove drives the heat in the dining room up to about 80 deg. So the boiler doesn't come on.
I would like to install a second thermostat in a different room, far from the coal stove.
I would like to be able to switch between the thermostats by either turning one "on" and the other one say, in the dining room "off".
I would to stay with a simple thermostat, one that CPH could be selected.
Any advise is always greatly appreciated.
We love this little coal stove, and would like to fire this thing up.
Merry Christmas to all.

I agree

@ December 1, 2013 8:08 PM in Rezeroing 3psi gauge?

I agree

Rezeroing my 3oz Wika

@ December 1, 2013 8:02 PM in Rezeroing 3psi gauge?

Chris, same problem.
My 3 oz gauges, 2 of them.
1. On the Boiler, with the pressure trol.
2. On the Main vent tree to measure end of Main pressure.

#1 boiler, sometimes goes back to zero, only will do it after a long time of not running. I have given up on these Wika gauges. I have numerous Wika gauges that I have bought over the last 2.5 years.

#2 Gauge seems to work???, and zero's out after the system cools a little. This gauge "I GUESS"
works ok.

I feel, that I have fussed enough with this new system, I'm done fussing with $40.00 gauges.

My pressure runs below an Oz, my vents are maxed out, My 8-way is doing a good job cleaning, can't find steam master tablets here in Maine.8-way does a great job.

Sid Harvey in Maine

@ November 25, 2013 8:27 PM in Steamaster Tablets @ Pex Supply

Sid Harvey in Portland Maine only sells to the trades, not general public. F.W. Webb sells to both here in Maine. Shipping from Pex on Steammaster tablets is expensive for a small container. I'll keep looking.

This is the Best Part of this Web Site

@ April 26, 2013 8:44 PM in A Steam Odyssey (Part 2): Midco Low-NOx Burner

Hi Mark,
I want to thank you for such a fun and interesting thread. I have been following this project, and your web site and your software. I love this stuff, computer science programming, along with steam heating technology. You are a very smart and talented engineer. I have gotten so many great tips from the pros on here over the years, and your expertise is right up there with these Pros. My heating season is over here in Maine, I will take your advise and change out my cycle guard for a safe guard LWCO. My biggest complaint, is the same as yours. I have a backup safe guard LWCO.
Thanks again for your great work.


@ March 28, 2013 8:15 PM in Burnham MST Oil to Gas

I have Riello 40 g200 gas burner in Weil sgo4. I'm in my second winter with it. I have finally got the right orifice in the burner. It is quiet, runs great. European quality, you never here this burner mentioned much. For my set up I am very pleased

Polyvou France' Henry

@ February 2, 2013 8:43 PM in Actual savings over steam heating

My wife and started to laugh when we got our December & January GAS bill. Yes we laughed, We are just as cold here in southern Maine as you are in Qebec (sarcastic) My !50+ year old brick Victorian with zero wall insulation. 3 years ago I spent $1700.00 on oil. Sit down Henry and just listen to these really, really smart steam Pros, and homeowners have to say. and don't be disrespectful.

No more French sarcastic jokes, My bill, $156.00, for gas, delivery charge, all the extra charges. $156.00.

I'm still laughing, I love my new, deknuckled steam system, I love my monthly gas bills.

I've wasted enough time on this thread.

Great Explaination Hap

@ January 29, 2013 7:56 PM in ccf to therm

This answer is why this is such a great "informational web site". Its well thought out, well conveyed, answers. Thanks Hap.

Average temps

@ January 29, 2013 4:14 PM in marble tops on rads

Dec 19 degrees
Jan 11 degrees

Last year same time period, just less days, i.e. billing cycle difference, 189 therms, this year 109 therms. Reason way under fired last year, this year right size orifice in burner to match load. Copious main venting, clean water, slow radiator venting ( cats like it slow) great advise from all the pros and really smart homeowners.

These books of Dan's are worth every penny.

Also Dan I picked up a copy The Ideal Fitter. really cool little book.

Thanks Dan

Conversion Factor of some sort

@ January 29, 2013 3:10 PM in ccf to therm

Just looked my bill to see about ccf.

Residential Sales Service
Explanation of natural gas used
Current reading: 929
Previous reading: 837
Difference (ccf) 92
Conversion factor X 1.19060=109.5
Natural gas used (therms) 109.5

I do not know the reason for this CONVERSION FACTOR of 1.19060 either.

I do know that it changes each month.

I'm sure one of the Pro's or really smart homeowners can answer this question.

Hot Topic

@ January 29, 2013 2:36 PM in marble tops on rads

I know it's been a long cold wintha here in southern ME. If I could climb on top of these marble tops to take a nap, I would. Instead, I put my jammies on our bedroom Rad, which warms them up nice. Turn on the electric mattress pad, to warm up the bed. Put my towel on the best towel warmer in New England and settle in for a long winter. Steam Heat Priceless. Got my Dec/Jan Gas bill, $159.00.

Marble Tops

@ January 28, 2013 4:29 PM in marble tops on rads

I have 2 rads that have marble tops. I get great heat off these 2. The tops get hot and stay hot giving off nice heat. My cats love them, and it also make a great food warmer.
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