Joined on September 9, 2009
Last Post on January 22, 2014
@ January 22, 2014 11:26 AM in Wifi thermostat for 20 zone radiant floor systemWhat Boiler &/or Controls are you using?
Is there an Occupied/unoccupied setting?
We are in Winter Park with a cast iron boiler & 8 zones of radiant in-floor.
I use 1 Bayweb Internet Thermostat & a relay operated on the Fan relay circuit to set a Home & Away Temp.
When "Away", the Bayweb is the master, I have it set at 55* The individual room stats are all set to 68 so the zones are open & anytime the heat is on they all get flow.
When I switch to "home", a couple of days before I arrive, the system reverts to normal where the individual stats control the zones.
@ January 22, 2014 10:58 AM in Issues with & Replacement of Honeywell L8148E AquastatDitto on the bad solder joints on the Honeywell control on my slant fin SX-150.
Same symptoms, intermittent no heat, not a good thing on a vacation home on the Colo Mtns when you are not there to know....
I replaced the control with a Beckett AquaSmart. There is some wiring needed to operate the vent damper, but otherwise a nice control.
If you need more info, let me know
@ January 13, 2014 11:02 AM in Does anyone have any contacts w/ NY METS org? Mad DogWere you able to get the assistance you needed?
My son in law, has played for the Mets in the past, and I believe he still has friends there, please contact me if you if you need help.
I'm not sure about the Mets, but most, if not all, of our Royals players are SOUTH for the off season.
Prayers sent his way.
@ January 13, 2014 9:43 AM in Boiler Mate WH-7LThank You for the input guys,
Steve, The bottle seems intact, cool to the touch,
Paul, I take it you are not a fan, I've read here on the wall others with the same opinion.
When we bought our original house in '09, the WHS-80 had been replaced (no clue as to why) & has a 2003 date on it so I felt comfortable keeping it & adding the Boiler Buddy 80 to buffer the load. Our common wall neighbor still to theis day has his original WH-7L. Being that the 2 Boilermates are of 2 different designs, I just was not sure of the durability of the poly bottle. Seems like a good idea in theory....
@ January 10, 2014 6:17 PM in Boiler Mate WH-7LI recently purchased an additional property that will be using for short term Ski House rentals at Winter Park Ski Colorado.
The Heating is radiant in-floor (Gyp & Concrete) & has a Boilermate WH-7L indirect. It appears to have the original indirect watermaker, and if it is, it would have been installed in the late 90's so its 15 to 17 years old (I think).
The serial #: " BM 167814 BZ" if anyone knows how to translate.
I am going to have to do some modifications similar to what we did 4 years ago to our original WP house, where we had a high temp non-condensing boiler hooked to the in-floor tubing. The solution then was to install a buffer tank & a Tekmar 361 Injection control. The existing watermaker was a WHS-80 installed in 2003, and is working well (knock on wood)
My question is:
Am I running on borrowed time with the WH-7
Should I kill 2 birds with 1 stone & install a Turbomax Rev Indirect (Thinking model 44) as a watermaker & Buffer
Thank You in advance for commenting
@ December 21, 2013 11:01 AM in weil -McLain IPC ManualI have one. what info do you need?
HTH in any way I can,
@ September 18, 2013 12:17 PM in Boiler Piping4 years ago I first came here with the same design on a house we purchased
Search " New House Q's ' for my original post & subsequent repairs.
I just purchased the twin to my original house with the same hydronic "designer & installer" so I am going to have the same repiping performed. some of the many problems are: no return water protection for the boiler, no high temp protection for the in floor tubing, 2 pumps, a 26-99 along with a 007, installed in series etc etc.
The boiler sensor is going in the buffer tank because I am using an ESBE for return water protection.
I'm not sure why I am concerned with expansion issues this time.
Thank You for the input
@ September 18, 2013 11:11 AM in Boiler PipingSorry, Still having attachment issues.....
1st Picture is the present setup, 2nd drawing is planed mod's
@ September 18, 2013 11:06 AM in Boiler PipingIt will be a 4 pipe connection with the buffer as a hydraulic separator with a Tekmar 361 controlling an injection pump.
attached is a picture of the present setup
@ September 18, 2013 10:21 AM in Boiler PipingWhat is the best practice piping method to add a buffer tank to a cast iron boiler? The piping to the BB will be in 1-1/4 black pipe. Is there any reason to be concerned about expansion forces on either piece of equipment? Should there be swing joints between the units, if so how many? & on both pipes or just 1? I do have layout flexibility, they can be installed right next to each other, or they can be installed on either side of with the boilermate between them.
@ May 18, 2013 11:56 AM in Longest lasting indirectsHow would a Reverse Indirect perform in the tough situations mentioned above?
WATER CHEMISTRY, Hard Water and/or High Chlorides
HIGH WATER TEMP, Expansion Stress
As a homeowner with a 10 year old Amtrol 80 gal Blue Bullet, I'm just thinking ahead to have something picked out.
@ March 30, 2013 1:40 PM in Issues with & Replacement of Honeywell L8148E AquastatRocky22,
I Cant find any reference to the c-90, possibly a v-90???
Anyway your description of the symptoms sounds remarkably similar to my problems with my slantFin SX-150. It used the same control (L8148E) and it drove me & my boiler man mad trying to find out why the boiler would intermittently not fire. It was suggested to replace the vent damper & gas control too, but I resisted until the failure was confirmed. Good call on my part, because it was a cold solder joint on the L8148E control relay. Its a DP relay, and the burner contacts were the problem, so the circulator would work ok. I chose to replace with the Becket Aquasmart (similar pricing, but features are included to save$$$) check it out,
its a nice unit
@ March 11, 2013 3:42 PM in Vacation Home Heat Pump setting when awaySo to be specific, we have a Trane XE1200 Heat pump, not sure if its TXV or not. I tried to look up info from internet, but was unable to find specific info for my system.
Is there any kind of 'rule of thumb' that apply's to heating costs at 55* vs 65* ???
eg: it costs 25% more to heat to 65 vs 55 or is it more like 10% increase
Thanks again for the input
The long reheat time is why we use the BayWeb to get the house warmed up before we get there, along with power out & freeze up warnings. It saved us on a boiler out issue in Colorado Last winter. Without the BayWeb, we never would have known the aqua-stat had failed......... Until we arrived 3 weeks later
@ March 9, 2013 11:43 AM in Vacation Home Heat Pump setting when awayHi,
We have a vacation home in central Missouri. I have installed a Remote Internet Thermostat (Bay Web).
In the interest of economy, I keep the house at 55* when we are not there in the winter. This is a house we use year-round, but its an every 2 weeks we are there for the weekend type thing. I set the t-stat at 55* for 10 to 12 days then 70* for 2 days etc.
I am wondering if this is to low of a setting, my brother in law, has the house next door, similar size house, EXACT same size & model Trane Heat pump, he keeps his at 65*.
He reported that he installer told him to never turn the temp down past 65* because it was hard on the heat-pump,& was not as efficient as 65*. Now mind you, this was installed in 1999, & this is mid Missouri, where there are a lot of "old wise tails" we have the same installer, but that was never mentioned to me. The heating usage seems high to me, I can track it on the Bay Web, & our electric bill seems high also.
The unit didn't seem to have any trouble cooling the house last summer even though we had record heat for a long time, so i'm not inclined to think it needs servicing, so I thought I would pose this to the wall for help.
Thank You for your input
@ January 17, 2013 11:06 AM in Honeywell Aquastat L8148E - Switching RelayI did the failing Honeywell to Aquasmart conversion.
There is some trickiness in wiring the propitiatory vent damper harness into the aquasmart, but it can be done. It works great
@ January 1, 2013 1:29 PM in WiFi ThermostatCk out the recent wifi thermostat thread in the controls forum too.
Happy New Years:
@ December 27, 2012 1:03 PM in Circulator post purge controlAny suggested ICM part #s for adding 120V post purge pump (Taco 007) control.
I see some of the units are limited to 1 or 1.5 amp & have voltage drop, not sure if that is too close to the max rating or if the voltage drop matters for the 4 min it will be ronning each cycle.
@ December 15, 2012 1:38 PM in wifi thermostatsThe technology is definitely here now,
If you have wired internet available, look at BayWeb, although their tech service people could probably get you hooked up on wifi.
I have 3 units working in 3 Houses, they work great.
The aux input / email alert feature saved me from a frozen house & pipes when my boiler control failed.
The occupancy feature doubles as a burglar alarm, very slick
oh ya, there is NO monthly fee either.
DIYCONTROLS seems to have the lowest price http://www.diycontrols.com/search.aspx?searchterm=bayweb
@ November 19, 2012 7:02 PM in Triangle Tube Solo 110 and Smart 80Instead of 2 TT110's, (modulation rate 30K to 220K) Would it be feasible to combine a TT50 with a TT175 to get a wider modulation rate (from 16K to 230K) to limit the short-cycling problems in a setup without a buffer tank ??
@ November 15, 2012 10:41 AM in Triangle Tube Solo 110 and Smart 80One more thing to drive you & your installer crazy with...
Why would you/he be thinking of doing 2 TT110's when the combined output is greater than what you now have & you don't use more than 1/2 of your present capacity regularly .
It seems like if you like the cascading 2 boiler setup, a couple of Locinvar Fire Tube wHn085's would give you in effect a 10 to 1 turn-down with a low fire of under 17,000 btu's. to limit short cycling under mild conditions. They also have a dual boiler Efficiency Optimized Cascade setup.
@ November 12, 2012 11:10 PM in Triangle Tube Solo 110 and Smart 80Sorry to hear about your troubles, things are really a mess.
Has anyone done a heat loss with the house in its present configuration?,
Do you know if when you showered with the present system, were both boilers firing, if so for how long ??
The original install seems like it was way over-sized for the heat load, and used a boat load of pumps.
A New properly sized ModCon with Outdoor reset and constant circulation anyone?
Dump a bunch of pumps (& electrical consumption) and gain all the comfort benefits of reset. & constant circulation.
I went from something like you have to constant circulation & Outdoor reset, what a difference it makes!
You don't need the Tekmar with the modcon,
Does the snow melt boiler need replacing also?, possibility there, depending on the size, is to use that boiler to heat the domestic.
A big indirect running at 140* with a mixing valve could provide a bunch of 110* water.
I've seen it said on the forum before: size the modcon for the heat load, then pick the
I hope others chime in with input.
That tankless suggestion is a good possibility too, then you for sure won't be tempted to oversize the boiler. I have all kinds of hot water heaters, Tank, Tankless, & Indirect
Watch out on the tankless, see what the "time to hot water" is, some of them are pretty long. My indirect has priority on the boiler, but because I run reset & const circ, the house temp never varies a bit when the indirect is using all of the boiler output.
Terrible that you have to do this, but it gives you a shot at doing it right.
@ November 7, 2012 12:33 PM in Lochinvar Knight WHN155 boiler + Lochinvar Squire SIT040 indirect water tankThat boiler seems like a lot of horsepower.
My experience as a homeowner suggests that you & the Boiler Installer have a serious & LONG meeting about sizing. not enough info to say he is wrong, but the discussion you have with him will tell you if he has done his homework with regards to the proper sizing, OR if its a wild ass guess & then add some btus.
My house in the Colorado mountains (2000') has a slantFin sx150 150,000 btu 80% eff boiler operating at 9000' altitude. Gas usage MEASURED by Mark Eatherton 99,000 btu @ 80%, so, 80,0000 btus are going to the house. Coldest night of the year, 30below in Fraser, so slightly warmer in WP say 25below, 24% usage measured by my BayWeb t-stat .
My next boiler will be the WHN 055 or possibly the larger WHN085 to support all the after ski showers taken in a short time.
Knowledge is power, Knowledge save you a ton of money, & there is a lot of Knowledge on this website.
Good luck, report back with your findings & post your fuel savings too!