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How to loop 2 cast iron rads,icesailor can you help me out?

@ July 21, 2014 7:11 PM in How to loop 2 cast iron rads

HI all.Customer lives in an old georgian house .House is 3 stories and is on one zone,a large gravity system.On the top floor there is a bathroom with a cast iron rad.In the bedroom 6 ft away is another cast iron rad.The bedroom radiator has a seperate feed and return coming from basement.At some stage the riser to this rad was disconnected.The bathroom rad works fine.Im assuming there was a leak or some issue with the bedroom rad.Heres my ?.Can i make a loop with the bathroom rad and bedroom rad.I was looking at systems etc on the site and can't find a drawing that shows the correct way as I am figuring air will be a problem.Thanks in advance for any input.

heat loss

@ July 16, 2014 7:38 PM in Gas Conversion

when a installer is on the Nat Grid Installer plan you can get quiet a few leads.I can't speak for all but if you are looking at a lot of potential jobs the contractor I think will not perform a heat loss every time.Sometimes they will if a contract is signed.You see they know that the customer is going to get 3-5 quotes on the job and I am not talking about you here but a lot of people go for the best price and are sold on the rebates that are offered when buying Burnham boilers.FYI you are entitled to a rebate when you convert to a high efficiency boiler of any make.Take Tims advice you wont get better here,again my IBC boiler 115k btuh heats 2700sqft and on heating mode rarely goes above 50k but it then goes into high fire for my indirect(wife,2 daughters and mother in law)so as you can imagine there is a high demand for hot water.As long as your piping is sized correctly and your circulator for indirect is sized correctly you will be fine.Good luck with your project and keep us informed.


@ July 15, 2014 8:35 PM in Gas Conversion

Why are you so stuck on the ES2,just curious.


@ July 14, 2014 8:12 PM in Do I need a chimney liner?

its also possible that your chimney if it has cracks etc could leak carbon monoxide into your home.Codes are there to protect you.In my humble opinion I would reline your chimney.Think safety.

Nat Grid installers

@ July 14, 2014 8:06 PM in Gas Conversion

You are getting ES2 quotes as you will get a rebate etc.As you have an existing indirect I personally would rule out Navien for a few reasons but dont want to derail your thread.For example when I converted my house I put in a mod/con with indirect.House is 2700 sqft and boier input is 115 btu.I cut my fuel bill by 65-70%.ES2 is fine but if you do go with it I would suggest you use the outdoor reset and pipe a bypass between supply and return to stop condensation in flue.
Remember if you put in ES2 you have to reline your chimney.

thanks guys for your info

@ July 10, 2014 7:51 PM in Icesailor are you there?

I just installed a Burnham Freedom(donated by Burnham)and a 50 gallon indirect.Availability of hot water is not a problem.Judging by other houses or should I say the majority of houses I go to they branch of in 1/2 inch and feed each bathroom this way.I only saw copper in the boiler room and I dont think there is galvanized pipe in house.Delta shower bodies 1/2 inch in each bathroom.Anyhow I will be back there hopefully this weekend and find out.Before this they had a 50 gallon electric water heater so at least they can take hot showers now.I must say it is very sad to see the condition of some of these guys after they came back from their tours.Thanks again for your time and help.
Icesailor I will have water company come also.I would like a new 1inch service hopefully they will step up.

thanks mr ice

@ July 9, 2014 7:57 PM in Icesailor are you there?

yes sir,55# static.water supply is from the street.when I go back I will cut in a tee by the meter and get a reading from there.Three bathrooms one on first floor two on 2nd floor.They say when one is taking a shower and if anyone else uses water it drops dramatically.I know i have more investigating to do but I will do as you suggested.Thanks for your time and help.I took the pressure reading from the hose spigot which is 5ft away from meter.There was a few sharkbite fittings I saw on the piping not sure if that would cause much restriction.I will do as you said and report back.

Icesailor are you there?

@ July 8, 2014 7:18 PM in Icesailor are you there?

Need your advice on this one.Here is the situation.I just installed a mod/com with 50 gallon indirect.Feeding 3 bathrooms.House is a halfway house for vets.Before we got there they all complained about the water pressure if more than one person showers.The powers that be would like it fixed.A few people I have talked to said to use a booster pump.I would rather run larger pipes.Main is 3/4 and leaving boiler room it is 3/4 hot and cold.I think though that 1/2 copper was run to each bathroom.Pressure is 55# coming from street.What do you think? booster pump or start breaking walls and re-pipe?Thanks

to funny

@ July 2, 2014 7:01 PM in caleffi dirt seperator

I have nothing but good things to say about caleffi and use their products all the time.My issue was with supply house and rep.Anyway I got the part installed and all is well.

its in.

@ July 1, 2014 3:37 PM in caleffi dirt seperator

Ice you wouldnt believe how big this company is but thats besides the point.After a discussion today we got it resolved.My supply house who I ordered it from unknown to me did not want to pay extra money to have it shipped quicker.So now it is in wholesaler ordered one unit and next week I need another.Really like the Caleffi products,I will use your link and order myself next time ,thanks

caleffi dirt seperator

@ June 30, 2014 9:34 PM in caleffi dirt seperator

week two waiting for dirt seperator with magnet.our local rep said they are not a stock item?they have to test the market to see if they will carry them or not.Pity because I have one on my own boiler and by the way im in ny not the boondocks.Its a little frustrating when the homeowner keeps asking why it is not installed many excuses can you give.I am nearly at the point where I will cut out the one on my own boiler and install on this job.Hot Rod please help or is there another company that makes something comparable.My little Monday rant sorry.


@ June 28, 2014 9:14 PM in Aquatherm piping

i thought an old schooler like you would like to solder,why propress?i have used it but availability on parts sucked,for me for now I will keep my torch in the truck.

fan in a can

@ June 25, 2014 8:23 PM in boiler venting

look up field controls and size the right size fan for your boiler.when your boiler comes on have the fan wired to come on with boiler either that or make some pretty big holes in your wall

keep us posted

@ June 15, 2014 9:53 AM in Any comments

let us know how you made out.good luck with it


@ June 13, 2014 6:20 PM in Union installation on 2.5"

see what you started,just goes to show there is always an option.The way I suggest which I have done a few times always worked,sorry about Jamie loosing a nights sleep over it,amazing even in sleep you are working.Some other good tips and ideas,love it

you keep your license

@ June 13, 2014 7:59 AM in Union installation on 2.5"

I learn from you most every day,thanks for your contributions

Bravo to you

@ June 13, 2014 7:18 AM in Steam-Heated Hotel!

when on vacation if I bring up rads I get a scowl.I would put my daughter in the pic to try and get my wife interested but to no avail.Congrats for this achievement


@ June 13, 2014 6:44 AM in Union installation on 2.5"

why cant you cut a section of pipe out before it drops to the return then go to the last tee and cut and kafer the remaining nipple from tee.Insatall new tee with vent and use 2 sets of flanges to re pipe.Hard to explain,out of the last tee use a nipple with flange.From the last 90 before it drops use another nipple with flange.Measure distance between two flanges and get nipple with another set of flanges made up then work it into place.Hope it makes sense.

National "Aero" Cast Iron Convectors

@ June 12, 2014 7:10 AM in Radiator identification needed to get EDR.

page 231 -232.
E.D.R Dan Holohan.Book is available on the site and highly recommend it.

Husky coupling saves the day

@ June 10, 2014 3:17 PM in Husky coupling saves the day

hit a bad bump today,nyc roads.Muffler on truck came apart which I repaired with a 2" husky.She is still holding up but the rubber is starting to smell a bit.Whats cheaper ,a coupling a day or get the muffler fixed......

looks beautiful

@ June 10, 2014 6:45 AM in Any comments

the extra work is worth it,I posted a similar question not so long ago and steamhead suggested I increased the drop header to 2 1/2 in on a IN5
ChrisJ posted a beauty on his site I dont know if you saw it or not.
Good luck

with Swei

@ June 8, 2014 7:40 AM in Typical venting for high-efficiency wall-hung boilers?

I think we have all learned over the years about venting mod/cons.Unless stated by manufacturer polypropelyne is your best bet.If you are using chimney as a chase I like to use centrotherm.
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