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master plumber?

@ April 14, 2012 10:19 PM in gas line size? and how to determine size.help tim plz

just to clarify,yes i am a licensed plumber,believe it or not on my test there is no ? on gas .i have worked on a lot of gas projects in nyc under licensed nyc licensed company from 4" all the way down so rest assured i am not a weekend warrior.i do value your concerns and input,i asked a simple ? from tim for reassurance for the homeowner.a large boiler company which i wont name did a horrific installation in her house.the lady does not have a lot of money.i know the 3/4 line is undersized.i know i have to file for a new meter bar.i know i have to remove all unions on piping one which the boiler company installed and replace with left to rights.i know im tied to this job.i know her boiler is undersized to the radiation in her house.i also know i will be attending tims seminar because i know that i dont know it all.i also no not to read to much into the title of master plumber seeing the work that is out there.and finally i know i wont be getting paid for this job but morally i cant leave it as it is,believe me i take gas work very seriously as from your coments you obviously do to.i also know that in nyc anyway a mechanical company can operate without having a master plumber license as can a piping and heating company.i do think it is ridiculous that lead wiping is more important than a gas fitting test but such is life.i also worked first hand with a nyc master plumber who wasnt so much of a master.thanks for your comments and links.

beautiful install

@ April 13, 2012 9:33 PM in More photos of Buderus install

fantastic work,very nice how you brought the pex into the manifolds.how do you price that job.

lead wipe

@ April 11, 2012 11:14 PM in Eatherton "flux sponge"

they still require it on the plumbing test where i live,plumbers soil a good wiping cloth and a couple of burned fingers,worth it to get a nice rolled joint.we wiped straight leads,2 of which i used in my house,thanks icesailor for all the advice you have given me in the past whether you know it or not,when it comes to heating you guys are the best and thanks for sharing the knowledge

how about beading the pipe

@ April 11, 2012 10:37 PM in Eatherton "flux sponge"

we just finished a large project with 3" and 4" copper.all fittings were soldered with lennox sterling solder.i found that after soldering a fitting ,i would change tips to a smaller tip and go aroung the fitting with less heat and bead the fitting,takes a lot more time but the result is worth it.icesailor im curious,how do you calculate your offsets for some reason i dont think you do it by eye,nyplumber,did you get that tip about wiping the flux away with a rag before soldering from troise,its great advice on how to avoid drips.

thanks tim.

@ April 11, 2012 7:53 PM in gas line size? and how to determine size.help tim plz

i actually called you today about attending your seminar and i apreciate your quick response and help.having to ask this question means i have a lot to learn and a need to go to your seminar which i will be attending next month.one more ?.if you have a 3/4 line for say 20' then increase it to 1 inch in effect is it true that the 1inch line will only have the capacity of the 3/4 line as the 3/4 line can only feed so much something like trying to get 30 psi out of a 20 psi compressor for example.thanks again and look forward to your class.i am goint to replace the unions with left to rights

dans office???

@ April 10, 2012 10:21 PM in dans office???

anyone know if dans office is still in bethpage.i loaned out a lot of my books and guess the recipients liked them so much that they kept them.im in bethpage tomorrow and would like to stop by for some shopping.

gas line size? and how to determine size.help tim plz

@ April 10, 2012 10:11 PM in gas line size? and how to determine size.help tim plz

hi,i was on a job today on long island,lady got her oil boiler replaced by a gas boiler by a reputable company of which i wont name.anyway she wants me to run gas lines for a new stove and gas heater in new kitchen.here is my ?.she has a 250 meter bar.of the meter bar is a 3/4 gas line which comes into the house.it feeds a gas heater in the front of the house 16k btu.it then comes to a tee where the boiler tied into it,they increased the size to 1 inch for the boiler70k burnham steam boiler.old gas line then picks up a 50 gallon water heater.there is unions all over the place,it is an old gas line.she now wants to pick up a stove and another 16k heater.boiler company told her pipe was big enough.i need some education on this,i thought once a line was 3/4 it would stay 3/4 even if you increased its size,should an 1.25 inch line been used.also i was always taught to use left to right nipple and coupling when working back and not a union.i appreciate any help.im not to keen on tying into the old line,what do i do?????

great info

@ April 8, 2012 9:20 PM in Eatherton "flux sponge"

thanks for that mark,very informative.at what size pipe do you flux the fitting.i usually start from one inch and up,also whats your thoughts on using flux to clean the joint after soldering,im definitly going to change my bad habits after reading your post,

Beeswax

@ March 23, 2012 7:26 PM in why does dan have a prob. with radiant and toilets

Of topic but beeswax makes a great mouthpiece for my didgeridoo.heat it up and mold it to fit your mouth.makes a great sound.with the utmost respect zen im sticking with my ad bend.

talk about some heavy hitters

@ March 20, 2012 8:23 PM in why does dan have a prob. with radiant and toilets

yes mr eathertoon,it still is alive in nyc.one more for you,i work for a 3rd generation company and the old man on friday evenings supervises us on wiping our straight leads.it takes time and more money,but looking at some of the pics you posted on your boiler rooms you can see the pride and workmanship that goes into it.it is not always about a quick buck.

thanks all for your help

@ March 20, 2012 7:18 AM in why does dan have a prob. with radiant and toilets

i moved the lines away from the bowl as was suggested.but this been nyc we use cast iron ,copper and yes lead bends.no pvc, on waste pex on domestic water.you would be surprised how many plumbers still use lead bends and we still make our pans with lead also,thanks again..

thanks for the info

@ March 18, 2012 6:10 PM in why does dan have a prob. with radiant and toilets

its funny i was following a discussion in a different website and this question arose.the general opinion was it is a stupid ? and cant happen.one answer was my truck gets hotter in the summer and the wax doesnt melt in there.i wanted an opinion from here though especially as dan mentioned it.on the job i am on twoo half inch lines come up in the same hole as the lead bend.i will be sure to use a felt gasket for re assurance.

why does dan have a prob. with radiant and toilets

@ March 15, 2012 9:28 PM in why does dan have a prob. with radiant and toilets

hi,in one of dans books he talks about doing a radiant heat job and takes measure to talk about keeping tubing away from the wax gasket,am i misunderstanding this or can the tubing actually melt the wax,i was on a job today where tubing was laid directly under toilet,i was just looking for confirmation before i said something,thanks

existing rads,

@ February 19, 2012 5:14 PM in monoflow loop ? icesailor are you out there.....

i am connecting into existing rads,thankyou all agaion for your advice.

final answer......

@ February 19, 2012 12:44 PM in monoflow loop ? icesailor are you out there.....

thanks steamhead,that confirms it.thanks for your help

thanks gus

@ February 19, 2012 12:19 PM in monoflow loop ? icesailor are you out there.....

i have to raise the existing loop as there is a ceiling going in.it is a pumped loop.thanks for your help.i was told i had to go through the beam as i would create an air pocket if i went under it,again thanks

monoflow loop ? icesailor are you out there.....

@ February 19, 2012 11:50 AM in monoflow loop ? icesailor are you out there.....

hi,i have to run a monoflow loop around my basement.loop is going to run into a steel beam.my question is can i 45 around beam or do i have to go through the beam.

mr hall

@ February 14, 2012 8:06 PM in how to add a steam rad.

you explained my exact situation.i have a right angled valve going directly into the rad,can i take it of and put on my tee????????

thanks crash

@ February 12, 2012 6:48 PM in how to add a steam rad.

the riser diagram you gave is very helpful thanks.sorry but i dont know how to draw up what i am trying to say,in reference to your diagram i would have to put a rad on each side of the riser,all i have right now is the valve,so i would be taking of the valve and i guess bullheading the tee to go on each side of the new wall,the new wall is bang in the centre of existing rad.thanks again for your help

add a rad?

@ February 12, 2012 5:41 PM in how to add a steam rad.

thanks for your help.the reason for adding the radiator is that the new rad will be in the new closet and existing rad will be moved to other side of wall for a different radiator,the rad is original and works wonderful.i dont want to be the knucklehead who screws it up but my gut is saying not to do it.

how to add a steam rad.

@ February 11, 2012 7:22 PM in how to add a steam rad.

hi,hope you can help.on the second floor i have a steam radiator .i am not allowed to open the floor.all that is visible is an 1.25 valve coming of a nipple and into the rad.my ? is can i remove the valve and put on a tee to pipe in another rad.i know dan says never to bullhead a tee.any suggestions would be appreciated

heatloss

@ January 26, 2012 9:16 PM in heatloss ? icesailor are u there,

i live in nyc,brooklyn.