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Last Post on August 20, 2014

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who is this Mr Pex guy

@ April 12, 2014 8:52 AM in who is this Mr Pex guy

HI,I just lost out on a radiant job.It was 2200 sqft under a slab.I proposed using viega as i know they are a reliable product but my competitor is using Mr Pex.
I dont know much about their product and am hesitant to use in case of failures etc.Has anyone had experience with it and how is their quality.Thanks,feedback greatly appreciated.

depends on what type of lwco

@ April 4, 2014 8:43 PM in steam boiler maintenance

Fred,you are correct in what you say,as you probably have the float type lwco.I actually called Burnham and they said when using probe type there is no need to drain the boiler like you used to when using the float lwco.They said it will lessen efficiency and life span of boiler by adding fresh water on a regular basis.

steam boiler maintenance

@ April 2, 2014 8:19 PM in steam boiler maintenance

Hi, a question came up at work today as to how often you should take water out of a boiler to prevent sludge build up.There was two different opinions,one was that if you are using a probe type low water cutoff there is no need to drain boiler on a weekly basis and said that by adding fresh water all the time you are decreasing the life of the boiler.Another guy said you should take a gallon or two out every week.Whats the correct answer bearing in mind you are using a probe lwco.Thanks

tub shoe removal

@ March 29, 2014 8:09 AM in Tub strainer removal

here is how I do it.get your sawzall with a fine blade.drop cloth in the tub,saw inside the tub shoe and very carefully over the flanged part of drain.same principal as when you cut and cafer a n old nipple out of a fitting.Once you do this the shoe will come apart,bit nerve wracking the first time just go real slow.Good luck


@ March 26, 2014 2:01 PM in Billing format

i am in a similar situation,thankyou kindly heatpro ,ice,etc.For my first year I was excited just being busy thinking everything would work out.Anyhow i am into my second year and slowly getting my head out of the sand.After a 4hour sit down with my accountant he pointed out all of what heatpro said.I guess when you are used to working for someone and getting an hourly wage you dont see the ins and outs of how a business runs.I still am astonished at how much it is to run a company(myself and another mechanic).Insurance,comp etc.I guess this is what the average homeowner doesnt understand when you charge X amount to install a boiler or change a toilet.Good luck and hang in there,a supportive wife is very helpful by the way.

swing joint

@ March 20, 2014 7:01 AM in Piping correction 1 inch copper sweat

as previous poster said double elbow swing will straighten you out.You could also try a brass tee .On the bull of the tee go to where you need and leave a drain cock on the run.You got options but I would cut that pipe out and re-do it some other way.

Viega design?

@ March 18, 2014 7:03 PM in Viega design?

Hi,I always kept my loops to a max of 250'.I am now working on a radiant job designed by Viega,under a slab they are showing two loops with piping more than 300'.one loop is 323 and the other is 316.Is this ok as I dont want to deviate from their plan.The customer specified he wanted a viega design .1/2 "pipe under slab.Do you think i will run into trouble????


@ March 18, 2014 6:53 PM in ? for Tim .Condensate in gas line/or sabotage

Thursday I will be going back,just to clarify,the 20' of pipe with condensate is inside a heated building.Thanks for your responses,the building supervisor has given the go ahead to drain line etc.I will take pics to show the outcome.

drip leg

@ March 18, 2014 7:30 AM in ? for Tim .Condensate in gas line/or sabotage

thats what got me,there is already a 12" drip leg on a 4 inch pipe.How much condensate can i really expect???????I will keep you posted as to the outcome.Thanks Tim.


@ March 17, 2014 5:56 PM in ? for Tim .Condensate in gas line/or sabotage

Thankyou Tim for your response,if I drain out all condensate will there be any effect on the incoming gas?.I am going to replace the existing strainer going into unit in case of rust particles,as originally the company was looking at a repipe thinking someone had messed around,this will be a much cheaper option for them.,Thanks for your response.

? for Tim .Condensate in gas line/or sabotage

@ March 17, 2014 9:15 AM in ? for Tim .Condensate in gas line/or sabotage

Ok,looked at a job last week.Previous company went bankrupt and left contractors out in the cold with no payments.Long story short electricians messes up panels etc.My problem is on the roof I have six inch welded pipe for gas.On one of the drops there is a 6x4tee,the line then drops 20' in 4 inch with a 4x2 tee feeding new generator(which new tenant paid a fortune for.Of the 2" line there is a valve ,strainer and union.I cracked the union and got water and with valve closed I let it drain.I then with the union open I cranked the valve slightly and felt like I opened a water main.? is is it possible for this 20' drop of 4" pipe to fill with condensate or am I looking at something else.On the roof the gas line runs on for 100' I opened a union and got gas no water and there is no valve to isolate the 4"line so it has been live the entire time.Pipe is indoors in a factory.
What do you think Im looking at.

Monoflow tee

@ March 16, 2014 5:13 PM in Myson 7000 toekick heater

That particular tee is piped in correct but I would change the orientation of the return.I usually pipe the toe kick in with copper and leave a bleeder valve on inlet.If it doesnt work I would suggest as the others have said to install a globe valve and throttle the flow.good luck with it

if he does work for burnham

@ March 7, 2014 10:15 PM in Beating a dead horse.

over the last year I installed 8 burnham ES2 and one ESC.Of the eight ES2 6 had to have their pilot assemblies replaced and also the ESC.Whats your thoughts Harper on this great brand.

Free solar ???????

@ March 6, 2014 9:38 AM in Free solar ???????

i got a letter from a solar company saying they will install solar panels for free and instead of paying utility company you pay them the bill.Im in long island company is RGS
Is this to good to be true or where is the catch


@ March 1, 2014 8:08 AM in New Gas Conversion

There is a member here when he sees oil to gas he automatically assumes the plumber is going to take the oil burner assembly of and replace it with a model that is gas fired.As Steamhead has said when done Properly there is no issues hence the word properly as many guys cant do it right.Repost on the main wall,you might have more luck.

chimney chase?

@ February 26, 2014 7:06 AM in Venting mod con up a (lined) chimney flue?

i use the chimney as a chase all the time with centrotherm.I just watched a program(this old house) where the plumber used the chimney as a chase but also using centrotherm used the chimney for his fresh air intake.That i have never done and was curious as to whether any one else has.

What was the cause

@ February 25, 2014 7:12 AM in Not again! Carbon monoxide kills one, sickens 19

was it a flue pipe came apart.? just shows how important it is to follow safety guides.
thoughts with the family,so unnecessary

I stand corrected

@ February 25, 2014 7:10 AM in navien and odr?

I now have 5 Naviens out there running on odr and condensing.So far no complaints,

Letters after name

@ February 25, 2014 7:07 AM in Help!! staple-up insulation foil myth

if i refer to dans book correctly Ramer phd tld mat
plumbing heating designer these letters dont mean a thing.
I enjoy reading your comments and advice,Thanks


@ February 25, 2014 7:03 AM in when to use NPT and when to use sweat

good for you at least you are using isolation flanges.I havent had problems with Taco flanges although I do prefer the Grundfoss model.Use solder if you are piping in copper or some people like to use blk fittings then go npt,good luck.

heat exchanger

@ February 24, 2014 7:23 AM in manifolds in series?

I actually had a friend suggest that to me.I am certainly going to bring it up .Again there is three remote manifolds.I think a total of 27 actuators.Every balancing valve is clogged with a rest color.Is it possible the non barrier pipe is responsible for this.I am going back tomorrow and will take pics.I really apreciate your responses.

HI Mark,

@ February 23, 2014 11:07 AM in manifolds in series?

so we went back to the scene of the crime.Condo board want us to start on duplex apt.We got the design layout from viega which helped in locating hidden every balancing valve is filled with a rust color and does not work.Heating side of boiler one set of closely spaced tees (8inchs apart.)These support four manifolds covering 3200 sqft.In the cellar on a six loop manifold,3 loops have viega pipe other 3 had a blue color pipe which we discovered was not o2 barrier.we figure the non oxy barrier pipe is causing system to rust,there is a lot of ferrous material on near boiler piping.We want to eliminate infloor heat in cellar and run radiant on walls.(very expensive Tile floor).we want to avoid ripping it up to run proper pipe.Im babbling.Next week we go back,I will take pics ,again thanks for your interest and help.By the way it is not an open system and all manifolds are piped in parralel if I understand corectly,
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