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@ August 30, 2014 3:46 PM in Boiler Mate WH7L Noise

I'm with Carl, check the pressure. If you look to the left of the boiler you can see that the ball valve for the make-up water is closed. I never thought about it being in the attic before it was mentioned.



@ August 29, 2014 3:25 PM in Oil to gas

Please feel free to post pics, no one here gets tired of seeing boilers. As to your questions: There is no problem integrating a mod-con into an older system. Most houses are over radiated,  meaning you can run the water at lower temps and provide the same comfort (which saves money). With a cast iron boiler you have to watch that the return water does not drop below 130-140 degrees. The first thing that needs to be done in this endeavor is a heat loss for the home. If windows, insulation, additions, etc... have been done, the heat load has changed (and that's assuming that the original heat-loss was correct). Go to the Slant-Fin website and download their App. If you have any questions just ask. You will probably save about 40% on fuel switching from oil to gas. The better the design of the system the more the savings. You can locate an indirect tank anywhere nearby in the type of home you describe, just insulate the lines. I, personally would rather relocate a tank than do a recirculation system.

Any other questions feel free to ask



@ August 29, 2014 2:51 PM in What is the solution?

I agree with Chris, call JStar, he can also check out the rest of your system for any deficiencies that can be corrected which may save you some$$$




@ August 29, 2014 2:41 PM in the latest on Boone, NC CO poisoning

I don't know about you guys but I only use CAT2014-litigation rated ice buckets and MP3 players for venting supports. The MP3 players have a much higher temp and smoke and flame spread rating than videocassettes AND Cd's. Get with the times guys!

Dumb Question

@ August 29, 2014 2:18 PM in What is the solution?

Have you checked to make sure that is a plug and not a bushing that someone removed a vent from and never put back? (felt for a hole on top). I have seen much stranger things.



@ August 29, 2014 1:33 PM in Cross-connection in blue bathroom

I'm still stuck on the three valves. You may have an early hot water gravity recirculation system. Is there any way to post photos of the basement piping? Are all of the pipes original galvanized piping? The dead men did not cut and thread pipe for no reason, as such, there is no reason for three pipes to run to a bathroom. It could be as easy as a bad check valve.



@ August 29, 2014 12:25 PM in Stupid is as Stupid does.

If they just staked out the salvage yards and interrogated the folks who come in with the stuff it would put a big dent in the theft. When I go to the scrap yard it is with separated drums of PVF. I would welcome the police to question me, at least I would know that they were doing SOMETHING. If the crooks cant get rid of the goods, they're no going to steal it. In my area there are three scrap yards, if they put an officer at each yard theft would go waaayyy down. (and nobody would even notice the lack of three cops on the road)



Doubt it

@ August 29, 2014 11:58 AM in Bryant 244-7 Series A Gas Steam Boiler

I don't think that anything will really work. I have heard of people using JB Weld to seal up a small leak to finish up a season but have never tried it myself. It sounds as if finances are the issue? Have you tried contacting the gas company to see if they will finance it? Some utilities will do that, after all, if you don't have heat, they don't make money.


To add....

@ August 29, 2014 11:22 AM in Oil to gas

Just to add to what Steamhead said, that 10% saving he mentions is just for the outdoor air reset, then there is the additional savings for using the natural gas.

In my opinion, if your dad is getting up there in years he probably will never realize the savings from a mod-con in his lifetime. He will probably be more comfortable with a cast iron boilers technology as well.




@ August 28, 2014 3:16 PM in Bryant 244-7 Series A Gas Steam Boiler

If there were replacement sections available, they have been long since melted down for scrap. Even if you could find sections it would cost more to replace them than to replace the whole boiler. Good luck.


Ice Bucket?

@ August 28, 2014 2:29 PM in the latest on Boone, NC CO poisoning

What's the problem, don't all of you use ice buckets to support your flue piping?


@ August 27, 2014 3:57 PM in Cross-connection in blue bathroom

That's what I'm saying, the cross connection must be either at the shower valve or at another fixture. Running the fixtures one at a time and holding pipes is the only way to track it down. It's got to be somewhere.

Just being nostalgic, I miss the old Creed plumbing catalogs of the good old days. You could Identify and find replacement parts for anything. Remember the American Standard 144 (fiber, metal, two piece, metal, washer cup, washer, bib screw) and the Price Phister 176, I could repair those in my sleep. Now it's all disposable.


Try this

@ August 27, 2014 3:20 PM in Cross-connection in blue bathroom

Hopefully you have access to the other pressure balanced fixtures.

Obviously you are bleeding cold water into the hot.

Go to each fixture one at a time and run the hot water until it comes out hot and turn it off. Have someone run the fixture in question and hold onto the hot water pipe of the fixture that you are at and see if it turns cold then turn it on and do the same thing. That will tell you which fixture is back-feeding.  The only way you are going to figure this out is by thinking like water. Try shutting off the washing machine valves as well, a thread came up earlier that mentioned washing machines cross-connecting. Is this a home? Are there any fixtures that are always open? Is there anything that runs at the same time as the shower in question? 

If this makes no sense let me know. Troubleshooting is tough to describe.



@ August 24, 2014 6:05 PM in Plumbing Forum?

I haven't read the entire thread (you should start a new one). If this home has galvanized piping and you were getting hot water through the toilet, you have a cross connection. I will take a wild guess and say that it is at the shower valve as that is the only pressure balanced unit in the bath. Can you install shut-offs? That would make troubleshooting a breeze.


Call Joe

@ August 24, 2014 5:22 PM in HW Radiant conversion

If your friend truly wants a quality contractor he should call Thatcher HVAC. Joe Starosielec  will take care of your friends issues in a quality driven and professional manor. I have never met him (that I'm aware of)  and have only seen photos of his work and heard customer comments. You will get top notch work and service. He probably won't be the cheapest but you don't get what you don't pay for.


Yes you can

@ August 24, 2014 4:48 PM in Hot water baseboard heater too big for room

There are clamp on replacement fin blocks. I gave the easiest way (cheapest). The man said he had a new child and most people with new children don't have a lot to spend. However, I stated that there were many other ways available and to not cut too many fins at one time. You can however replace fins with a simple clamp on unit  they work very well, I have used them in under-radiated spaces and unfinished areas.


Circuit Board

@ August 24, 2014 3:15 PM in home made thermostat

I'm sure that my wife would love to see that lovely circuit board on the wall in the hallway.



@ August 23, 2014 5:50 PM in Plumbing Forum?

It's a shame that you don't have an access panel and individual shut offs for the shower. The only thing that comes to mind is that the cold water (which has higher pressure than the hot) is cross connecting in the shower valve. I recall that you repaired it recently but was it a correct fix? Old valves and new parts do not necessarily work well together. If it worked before, it has to be in the shower valve.



@ August 23, 2014 12:46 PM in Hot water baseboard heater too big for room

If you are confidant that the baseboard is over-sized for the space the easiest thing to do is to remove the cover and cut off fins from the unit. You should do it in small increments until you find the proper balance. Make sure and put the cover back on after cutting off fins to ensure proper convection. There are many other ways as well.


Has it

@ August 23, 2014 12:24 PM in Plumbing Forum?

Has it ever worked since you have been there? If yes, what has changed?


@ August 23, 2014 11:53 AM in Offsets in pipes between floors?

Could they be offset to go around a joist that spans that side of the house?


Good times

@ August 22, 2014 12:38 PM in Not the Usual Failure

That 97 year old gentleman probably had more fun watching you two craftsman do your magic than he has had in a long time. I'm sure it brought back memories of dead men and he was sad to see you finish.

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