Heating Help

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@ January 31, 2013 3:14 PM in 9 residential

Can you tell me how to check for loss of pressure?

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@ January 31, 2013 2:28 PM in 9 residential

P.S. I told the size of my boiler. They say its 125 hp? beets me22

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@ January 31, 2013 1:49 PM in 9 residential

No, I spoke to them, they checked the street pressure, said I have low pressure coming from the street. Based on what I told them, thats what they said. They say I need a class 1000 meter and larger supply line. I did not want to get into more details with them, cause they said they would have to red tag the 4 meter.

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@ January 30, 2013 6:23 PM in 9 residential

Well, I have come to the conclusion that I have done everything in my power to resolve this problem. The boiler is not short cycling (?) I called con ed and came up to the conclusion that a new  gas pipe from the street is my last and only option. Will let you know, maybe they can help, or god knows a grant to help pay for this.
will let you all know what happens.
By the way, everything else seems to be on order.

Thanks again,   bewildered  Ron

 

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@ January 29, 2013 6:02 PM in 9 residential

I am in beautiful yonkers ny, proud owner of a 9 res and 3 com building. i hired plumbers  who didnt know s@#t from shinola. thats why I am learnig the way things really are. Got tired of getting ripped off.

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@ January 29, 2013 5:38 PM in 9 residential

you are probably wright that the boiler is
 not putting out enough. What you say is not
conjecture, because you know more than I do. I am still learning and figuring out whats going on.
 Unfortunately most of the plumbers in my area know less. I learned the hard way.
I am going to find out what the fuel requirements are for my boiler, that will solve some of the problems. 
All of your help is greatly appreciated.    Ron

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@ January 29, 2013 3:41 PM in 9 residential

I know, i drilled a hole and just really needed to fill it. I could put in a plug. wanted to see If water was standing at that point

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@ January 29, 2013 3:25 PM in 9 residential

1- clas4 meter
2-2 inch supply  I resized
3-supply to boiler
4- gas valve
5-2 inch to 1 1/4 inch going to valve
6- Header going to other side of basement
7- shorter run
8- long run I had to repitch
9-going through back wall to small room
10- short run back room of basement
11- end of that run, 2 gorton #2, Vertical riser I cant get hot

last week I got steam to within 3 feet of the vertical riser. Now I cant get half of the long run hot. Today boiler was not short cycling.

What next?     Ron

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@ January 29, 2013 3:13 PM in 9 residential

I clocked the half cu ft dial. Took some pix will try to upload and then describe them

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@ January 29, 2013 9:19 AM in 9 residential

When I clocked the meter,I did it for a minute. It was 10.5 for the min.  I ran 2 inch line from the meter, (class 4 meter) to the pipe that feeds the valve. The run is about 35 feet.  I will take pix and show you.
again thanks for all thr  help,   Ron

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@ January 29, 2013 8:45 AM in 9 residential

Hi Dave thanks for the help,  the w-m is a egh-125,  550000btu input, 440000btu output.  (thats what it says on data plate) 
I clocked the meter as per the formula provided to me on the posts. 
 I will try to take pictures and uploaded them.

Again, thanks or the help, I am getting dizzy with this.

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@ January 29, 2013 7:32 AM in 9 residential

Bob, thanks for your help  and you are right. something changed and Iwill get to it today. will let you know what happens.

Again, thanks a lot   Ron the bewildered

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@ January 28, 2013 6:35 PM in 9 residential

I checked the plugs, nothing dramatic came out, I will check the pipes for the pitch, but it seems that it is haunting me. I havent changed anything else, but Ill see what I can find. Again, thanks for the help,      Ron

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@ January 28, 2013 5:06 PM in 9 residential

What to try next ? Did nothing to change things since last Thurs., but now the boiler is short cycling. The long main is not hot  anymore. just losing my mind ( whatever is left)
   Help,     Ron_

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@ January 26, 2013 1:25 PM in 9 residential

Well today i t, and now thw boiler is short cycling. im almost rady to hng myself, Every day a new problem. Didnt sort cycle yesterday didnt chnge anything dont know anymore.
thanks again Ron

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@ January 24, 2013 4:31 PM in 9 residential

Well I did lower the cut out to about 8 oz differential, and found a section of mis-sloped pipe. I did jack up the pipe and got the steam much closer to the vertical riser. Still not all the way there, but getting better. Will go back tomorrow and do more work to see if I can get this resolved.

Thanks again for all your help,   Ron

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@ January 23, 2013 7:48 PM in 9 residential

Pretty close. Its in the right direction now and I am going to try to lower the cut out and see what happens.
thanks again, Ron

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@ January 23, 2013 6:35 PM in 9 residential

Well today I opened some of the 1/4 inch holes I drilled yesterday, and a lot of water came out from 1 of them. The pipe got hotter further along that run, but not to the end where I need it. I called w-m to  ask them if adjusting the pressure would move the steam, and they said no, because of the setting I already have. They did tell me that lowering the cut out might help. So tomorrow I will try to lower the cut out to 1 1/2 and see if the heat gets farther Still confused.
 
Ron

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@ January 22, 2013 6:36 PM in 9 residential

Clocked the meter, putting out 315000 btu per hour. To me it seems to be enough.
I checked the pitch on the problem pipe, and its pitched in the wrong direction.
bought 2 lolly columns  to jack up the pipe, and it moved pretty well, except now I think I moved the water trap down the line towards the boiler. Going to get 2 more lolly columns and work back towards boiler.
    I drilled 1/4 inch holes in the bottom of the main and keep getting water, it seems that by repitching the main , I just moved the water trap. Tomorrow I will try 2 more lolly columns and hopefully get this problem behind me.

Again, thanks for all your help, it is invaluable.

        Thanks
       Ron

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@ January 21, 2013 6:45 PM in 9 residential

Hello all, did what you told me to do, putting out 315,000 btu's according to the formula. I dont think fuel is an issue. I did check the pitch on the run giving me a headache,   the  pitch was in the wrong direction. I jacked up the pipe and got the pitch going to the boiler, but it needs a little more. I might have also created another water trap by doing so, but tomorrow is another day. I am going to get a couple of lolly columns to support the pipe correctly, cause I cant take off the pipe and do it correctly. We will see how it goes tomorrow. Again thanks for your support and help.

                       Ron

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@ January 20, 2013 8:34 AM in 9 residential

Thanks so much for the info, I will do this tomorrow and let you know. I do believe there must be a sag or obstruction because the steam should come out from the union. I will check the main with a level to try to find out.

Again thanks for all your help.   Ron

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@ January 20, 2013 7:12 AM in 9 residential

I have not checked all the pipes for pitch because many are not accessable, but I will check the main which is very long and supplys the vertical that does not get hot. There is a union right before the  vertical, that I split, and no steam comes out when shes running. I suspect there might be a problem right before the union.

The boiler does not shut off for a min or two, it will run for about 20 min, then shut off.

about clocking the meter, what am I looklng for?