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heatpro02920

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Last Post on June 25, 2014

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Thats small

@ May 1, 2014 5:20 PM in List of small mod/cons

The TT60 is under 50K, but if I were you with that small load I would look into a small ci boiler, the amount of energy you will use to heat that space will never pay off with a mod con...

think of it this way...
A prius gets 55 mpg and costs $30K a comparable small no hybrid car gets 40 mpg and costs $15K, you only drive 8 miles a day, you would not be doing yourself any favors buying a hybrid, now if you drive 300 miles a day it would be a smart move...

Mod cons will not last as long as a ci, will cost more to maintain, ect...

look into the small Weil Mclain golds, cg series...

For example a WM CGI25 {net is around 37K BTU's}, piped primary secondary, with bumble bee pumps, an outdoor reset {either the hydrostat, a taco 700, or which ever you choose}, outside combustion air, ect you will only be losing the so called combustion efficiency difference which is around 10% {I would say more like 3-6% in the real world}, so if you are spending $600 a year to heat your space you will save a maximum of $60 a year, but now factor in the ci will last 40 vs 20 or so for a mod con, the ci will go years with out service vs the mod con will not.. And the ci will save you time, money on the install, money on maint., ect..ect..ect..

I would

@ April 30, 2014 6:39 PM in New workshop- Help with options

run natural gas from the house, you can get a sprinkler company to trench for you cheap, lay in the pipe, tracer, warning flags, get a couple risers, and if the meter needds to be upszed so be it...
For a boiler you can use a Rinnai rl80 to heat the water, I have a bunch of rinnai tankless powered radiant systems out there, they tend to work great...

Buy once cry once....

I normally

@ April 29, 2014 5:41 PM in Low loss header for dual heat sources

Pipe dual heat sources primary secondary, makes thisgs work very well and pretty simple to do..

I never install mixers on

@ April 29, 2014 7:34 AM in Mixing valve on Tankless...?

direct fired gas water tanks, {unless Its going to be a high temp tank} never had an inspector give me an issue about it..

I have installed a bunch of these now

@ April 28, 2014 9:38 PM in Failed ignition on triangle tube pt 110

and had this happen once, it was 4000 hours iwith no failures then it failed 5 times, I went checked and cleaned ignition system, everything looked good, reset it and hasn't happened since... Out of all the customers I installed them for this is the one I would pick NOT to have a problem with since she is a "complainer" but so far so good, if it fails again, I will change the cable and ignitor..

How would the 400l compare to

@ April 28, 2014 9:22 PM in Impressed by Wohler

this http://www.valuetesters.com/hvac/combustion-analyzer/testo-330-1-ll-combustion-analyzer-kit1.html , if you have any experience with testo?

Ice I see where your point and agree

@ April 28, 2014 7:57 PM in Mixing valve on Tankless...?

I mean do they make you put mixers on a 40 gallon gas fired tank? Its the same thing, BUT like I said around here, I don't argue, me and my partner own the company and learned long ago, we have a bunch of bosses, they are inspectors, just do what they want and be polite... I am young'ish and wont shy away from an argument if I feel I am rite, BUT I put inspectors in the same bin as you would put your wife or mother when it comes to arguments, just bite your tongue and try to get out with as little sacrifice as possible, lol...

I have good luck with inspectors, the work looks good, they wont say much, I tend to remember what each wants, I learn fast, so if I know the Cumberland inspector wants LWCO's on mod cons with them built in, I install them in Cumberland, but the Cranston inspector could care less, so I don't do it there.... I know an inspector that wants a firepmatic directly over the burner not on the ceiling so I install them directly over the burner when I am in his area, I know an inspector that wants sprinklers over all new boilers and direct fired tanks, so I install them in his area, others dont ask for it so I don't... Live and learn, next time you do a tankless in this guys back yard, make sure you price a mixer...

Years ago a local inspector would have to find something, he wouldn't leave until he found something wrong, he was an old timer and just would not sign off on the first visit, he did it to everyone, and the first few times, I made sure everything was perfect and I noticed he would just make something up, lol... Like he made me put hangers on a smoke pipe that was 18 inches long and went rite into the chimney {it was fastened to the flue and boiler with screws and l sheets, but he wanted something from the ceiling, lol...
So another old timer in the business told me, leave the pressure relief valve not piped down so he has something to find.. So I did, and it worked, I did 10-15 boilers that he inspected before he retired and everytime I would leave that pipe off and he would never mention that I left it off everytime...

I later found out he did it for the over time, he would come back after hours and get a little pay boost, but what ever, I just do my job as well as I can for me and my customers...

I am ready for new testers

@ April 28, 2014 7:42 PM in Impressed by Wohler

and looked into them a little, but never seen one in person, will they demo for me, I could probably get a few other companies to take a look at them. I was going to go with Testo because of their replaceable sensor, I use UEI rite now, and they are ok, very affordable, and reliable, but nothing fancy by any means...

I am the type that would need to stick it in the flue pipe before I commit, maybe we can get one up here to put my fingers on. Do they have a rep up here? I can host them at my shop or maybe Tim would be interested in helping...

I was going to purchase the testo's next week, I was working on getting a good price but now with Dan saying these are good I am back on the fence...

Why not

@ April 27, 2014 9:50 PM in Boiler flow

use bumble bees? Set them for your desired delta, there are rebate available to help with cost and they save some electricity too..

Another option is a flow restrictor like the watts p3 {I believe they make 3/4" versions}, I have never used them in this fashion, I normally use them on tankless water heaters but it should slow the flow, I dont like using restriction to slow pumps though, I would much rather see a delta t circ in there..

looks like it will go to me..

@ April 27, 2014 5:37 PM in Alpha motor fits non-alpha 15-55 body?

give it a try, or call g-fos to be sure..

I would just throw one on

@ April 27, 2014 2:57 PM in Mixing valve on Tankless...?

Probably cost less in gas and time going back and forth, just throw it on, it won't hurt...

t if the unit was limited to 120 degrees and had a t&p I don't see why they would ask for mixing...

Same to you

@ April 25, 2014 10:39 PM in Dealing with fire damage

Also electrical in our case, the investigator found an arced wire in the ceiling above a light fixture, its such a mess, they had to break every window, everything is flooded, shut the power off, took the gas meter out, just a bad day...

My eyes are itchy, skin is dry, I am super tired, but can not sleep...

No one was hurt, 2 cats were sadly lost but everyone is OK... Thanks for asking...

We had a fire today!!!

@ April 25, 2014 9:12 PM in Dealing with fire damage

Nick, I just got done from sitting with the fire inspector while he combed through a charred bedroom with a small rake....

I couldnt wait to wash that smell off of me....

Yup when done rite it can work well

@ April 24, 2014 7:00 PM in Apartment building zoning solution - Tekmar tn2?

but then your loops end up being so tight you can run into short cycle issues with cold start

Series loop

@ April 24, 2014 6:26 PM in Apartment building zoning solution - Tekmar tn2?

It has its place, its cheap, its fast, and although should get a lot of thought in its design doesn't...

LOL

@ April 24, 2014 6:14 PM in Some stuff for sale...

I dont know what i am doing wrong, I tried to email everyone back, I don't know why youdont get my messages, I think I may be replying wrong because I have sent a few replys out from the emails and never get them...

Call me (4 0 1 ) 4 1 9 0 0 7 5


AND I HAVE More STUFF FOR SALE>>>>>>>

I have 14 Buderus panel rads, I have been holding onto them and using them here and there {mostly in bathrooms}, I bought them for jobs, and an extra one here an extra 7 there I end up with $5000 of extra panels that I paid for in my shop collecting dust...

They are from 2000 btu to 3800 btu each, some good sizes like 24x24x 2 1/2, 36x20x 2 1/2 If someone wants them all and wants to drive up for them, I'll sell all 14 for $2000 come and get em'.... Brand new in the boxes never opened, I would say the total cost would be around $3500... These are the slim ones 2 1/2" so you end up like 4" off the wall, people like them like that, I have a ton of adapters too, but you can just buy them from your supplier since I use them all the time...

I know I can buy

@ April 24, 2014 6:10 PM in What's your opinion on this design...

a slant fin, williamson, hydro therm, ect gas boiler for a few hundred more than the rmb costs!!!

A v-man may be a little more than that though, lol...

I have it in my head to separate all low temp radiant and high temp DHW/base board/Hydro air/ect lately.... I just quoted a job to replace a Burnham v7 oil with a solo 60 and a solo 110, the houses heatloss comes to 128K, the radiant side of the house does around 28K of the total load, so I quoted a solo 110 to connect to his existing indirect, bb, and 2 air coils, then a solo 60 to run the radiant, I also quoted a 175 to run the entire house, believe it or not the dual boiler setup wasn't much more {when you look at the entire job that is}...

I am so sick of changing mixing valves and water tanks. I got a new customer that called in while I was away with some leaks, it turned out she let her glycol get too old and it destroyed her mixing valves, she has 11 of them and they are all in rough shape, I havent seen it with my own eyes yet, but I am most likely going to fphx that job and repipe what I can...

It seems they are out of stock

@ April 24, 2014 5:58 PM in Are you in the market for a Thermal Imager?

2 people have let me know that they are out of stock at value testers, I should have 3 more coming to me since I bought them the other day when they were in stock, but not sure...

I know 5 or so other HH members go the order in time and a few local friends of mine, I used mine today to track some condensation issues and it worked great... I have a feeling they are going to get hard to find soon...

LOL, yah the video is fast

@ April 24, 2014 5:15 PM in Are you in the market for a Thermal Imager?

the easiest way is to log onto teamviewer.com, plug in your camera and let him do it from his pc to yours... Thats what I did, you just call his phone he logs in and 5 minutes later logs off... You can see everything he is doing rite infront of you on your screen, and then its done..

You can do a t-stat with

@ April 24, 2014 6:26 AM in Apartment building zoning solution - Tekmar tn2?

a lockout code or a simple construction sensor like the icm sc070 or what ever temp you want to fix them at...

I made a little configuration up for a customer of mine, it is a 65 degree pill and a 70 degree pill with a stdp switch mounted in a box with a cover marked high low off, they flip the switch to high and it goes to 70 low goes to 65 and off shuts the tstat off... He installs them in all of his apartments...

OK,

@ April 23, 2014 10:12 PM in Apartment building zoning solution - Tekmar tn2?

so you want to install a zone valve in each unit, I have done it this way before... BUT you really need to know where the pipes are coming from and where the tees are.... I offer thermal imaging services, but it may be cheaper to buy a camera, since it can get time consuming....

Having a drawn out piping print will save you when the contractor comes to install the zoning since he is going to charge you to figure it out himself...

The thing with the tn2 is you dont need 80% of the features, so to buy a $450 control when the $150 taco control will do what you need is kind of a waste..

If you are going to use zone valves I would use a grundfoss alpha pump, taco sentry valves, and the taco zvc404 control...

Problem is with out know how your building is piped you have no idea how to zone it, I have seen multi levels that feed all the floors on different walls, in other words the pipe on the north wall is feeding all 5 floors, so you can only zone the base board on them walls together...

Do you have some pics of the piping you can see, another option depending how its piped is to install thermostatic valves {trv}at each unit... If I knew how it was ran I could give you some ideas..

I have a customer

@ April 23, 2014 8:49 PM in Wall-mount radiator install?

he didnt do it or know who did it, he bought the house this way, they put threaded rod with nuts and washers to keep the unit from the wall, then squeezed the radiator with them...
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