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Steamhead

Joined on March 11, 2004

Last Post on April 24, 2014

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Good to have you, Bill

@ March 17, 2003 10:57 PM in Testo Support

maybe you can come to the next Wetstock! BTW I have a 325m which works great. Got it from Steve Ebels a while ago. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Hey SW

@ March 17, 2003 10:51 PM in Variable Speed Drive Book first eight callers get it free

didn't know you were from the Baltimore area! How are things in Hillendale? To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Another thing to check

@ March 17, 2003 12:58 PM in naked ladies on the ceiling

is the boiler's waterline. If the feeder or pump controller has it too high, water will carry over into the steam lines. If you're not sure where the waterline should be, ask the manufacturer's rep. Scotch-Marine boilers require very precise control of the waterline for proper steaming. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Clarification

@ March 17, 2003 12:51 PM in Question for those of you left.

We were talking about 2 different things here. One is the vents themselves which should if possible be installed on nipples 6-inches above the pipe to be vented. The other was how the drip lines connect together above the boiler waterline- and Ben nailed that one perfectly. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

The Gathering #4- Marketing Hydronics

@ March 17, 2003 12:32 PM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

Here we see Boilerpro, Tom Tunstall and Bob Livingston (next to Tom) talking to two more gentlemen whose names I didn't write down- please fill in the blanks! I really have to do better next time. What a weekend! I was completely drained (and not just from that hot bus ride back from Weil-McLain). Wetstock is truly a meeting of the best and brightest in hydronics. For those of you who couldn't make it, plan on coming to the next one! Thanks, Dan and everyone from Weil-McLain! So when and where will the next Wetstock be? To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

The Gathering #3- Liability

@ March 17, 2003 12:25 PM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

Mark Eatherton shows one of his many works of genius as Earthfire, Floyd Kolb, Arlene Puentes (who later won the Wirsbo class in the raffle) and another gentleman later identified as Howard Hansen look on. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

The Gathering #2- Writing

@ March 17, 2003 12:15 PM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

Dan talks about how he approaches writing and speaking. To the right of Dan is Arlene Puentes of October Home Inspections, who is also head of education for the Kingston, NY area ASHI chapter. Those of you who haven't had good experiences with home inspectors should see her presence as a good sign. Kelly from PM/Engineer is next to Arlene, and Tim Doran from Wirsbo is on the left of Dan. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

The Gathering #1- Steam Heat

@ March 17, 2003 12:06 PM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

Where else am I gonna start? ;-) Here we have Tom Farrell, Kelly from PM/Engineer, a lady who owns a steam-heated building Boilerpro works on, and the one and only Tom Tunstall of Tunstall, Inc. Scott Fewer was here too but not when I took this photo. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Day 1- The Weil-McLain Tour

@ March 17, 2003 11:58 AM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

"No Cameras in the plant!" they said, so we had to leave them on the bus. From left to right: Paul Lessard, Earthfire, Boilerpro, Unknown (Please fill in the blanks if you know who the unknowns are, I didn't get a chance to write everyone's name down), Glenn Harrison, Unknown, Jeff "Southern Man" Lawrence and his wife. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Day 2

@ March 17, 2003 11:38 AM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

"No cameras inside the Weil-McLain plant" they said, so we had to leave them on the bus. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

We decided to meet for dinner

@ March 17, 2003 11:23 AM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

and the group grew as more Wetheads arrived. That's George "Earthfire" Stawnyczyj directly in front of the camera, and Paul and Nadine Lessard to the right. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Got there Thursday evening (all these photos are full size)

@ March 17, 2003 11:19 AM in Wetstock 2 Photos (Steamhead)

and look who was at the bar already ;-)... From left to right, Ken Secor, Dave "Boilerpro" Bunnell, Dan Holohan. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Branch steam line

@ March 17, 2003 11:03 AM in sizing steam pipe

I'd go with a 2-inch black steel pipe to supply those 1-inch risers. Also provide a place to install a vent at the end of the new 2-inch pipe. Vent the pipe with a Gorton #1 or Hoffman #75. Copper on steam lines is always a bad idea. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

There's probably a vent on the return

@ March 12, 2003 8:39 AM in Steam release

that you haven't found yet. Keep looking, it's there. 80 years is a nice long time, but it's not uncommon for problems like this to pop up unexpectedly. First, remove the new Hoffman vent and wash it out. If it still leaks, boil it in vinegar to clean it. If it still leaks, switch to Gorton #2 vents. Going to Wetstock, so I'll be off the Wall for a few days. www.gorton-valves.com To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Try cutting the pressure down

@ March 12, 2003 8:33 AM in Source for Orifice plates?..... Boilerpro

with a Vaporstat, and you won't get all that flash steam in the returns. Then you will know if you have bad traps. This would also eliminate the need for the Alternating Receiver, but I'd leave it in place as a backup. If it's not working right, Tunstall can probably rebuild it when the owner is ready. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

See you all in Chicago

@ March 12, 2003 8:29 AM in Wetstock or Bust!

and those of you who couldn't make it, will be missed! To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Nice Diagrams!

@ March 12, 2003 8:24 AM in Conversion to one-pipe system

I see the trouble now. The steam lines were sized to be parallel-flow, fed thru the single steam main off the boiler that was removed. If you're running them counterflow, they have to be one size bigger so the condensate can flow back against the steam, and also they need more pitch- 1 inch in 10 feet- back toward the boiler. This is covered in Dan's book "The Lost Art of Steam Heating". I'm assuming the original steam line from the boiler was cutting into the available headroom, and that's why it was removed. Your contractor ought to find a way to re-install that pipe so it doesn't hang so low. Maybe it could run counterflow, pitching up to the center of the basement, and parallel-flow (downhill) from there to tie into the two steam mains. The alternative would be to repipe the present counterflow mains with increased pipe size and pitch. If you do this, you will also have to move the main vents to the ends of the mains. Going to Wetstock, so I'll be off the Wall for a few days. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Find out

@ March 12, 2003 8:09 AM in Hydronics Objections

who published the report. Betcha it was a scorched-air organization. The rest of the "objections" are easily refuted by any knowledgable Wethead. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

If you don't have enough vents

@ March 11, 2003 8:11 PM in what would cause cast iron to disintegrate

the condensate will turn to a mild acid, which can contribute to this problem. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Can't remember who made our last set

@ March 11, 2003 8:08 PM in Source for Orifice plates?..... Boilerpro

but I'll try to find out. BTW, do those Sterling rad shutoffs have orificing or other limiting built into them? If you think they might, try just installing a Vaporstat and experimenting with the pressure settings. You might save yourself a bit of effort this way. I wouldn't remove the traps, BP. They probably won't see much action with the orificing, but if something goes wrong like a plugged Vaporstat pigtail, they'll act as a secondary defense against steam in the dry return. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Piping for two boilers

@ March 11, 2003 7:42 PM in Any steam experts in Utah?

should look something like this (Columbia's version). Note that the header that receives steam from both boilers and passes it to the steam system mains is a "drop header". To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Here are a couple of ways

@ March 11, 2003 7:37 PM in Piping two boilers

from Columbia. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"