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Steamhead

Joined on March 11, 2004

Last Post on September 16, 2014

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Having lived with both

@ February 2, 2003 10:01 AM in which dries your throat more? hot air or baseboard?

I'd say scorched air is definitely worse. The moving air dries your skin. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Are they

@ February 1, 2003 6:39 PM in Using Steam Radiators Without Water?

Clow "Gasteam" units? I'm surprised they haven't started a fire. But I think they have pipe tappings on the bottom- if that were my house I'd probably build a steam system using them, and disconnect the gas burners. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

New furnasties?

@ February 1, 2003 5:44 PM in Saved a building today...

This would be the time to sell hydronics, or hydro-air at the very least! To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

And

@ February 1, 2003 5:33 PM in Old steam fin-tube rads

if they aren't, I have some real old stuff that Dan didn't have when he published his book. Try to find out who made yours. Take some pics and post them here. Is that a one-pipe or two-pipe system? Are traps built into those convector units? I recently ran into some similar ones with orifices built in for Vapor operation. They were made by Trane. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

I have a similar system

@ February 1, 2003 5:25 PM in Replace CI with flat panel radiators

and it works great! With an efficient, properly sized boiler and circulator, yours should too. No need to rebuild it- just clean the radiators up and enjoy them. The leaky joints should be relatively easy to fix but you'll have to drain the system to do it. If they're not leaking badly, this might be a good summer project. I've kept my gravity piping since we don't know what the future will bring, energy-wise. Having a system that can circulate without a pump may be an advantage down the road a ways. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Gary, I sent Noel a heads-up

@ February 1, 2003 5:21 PM in Dirty gas boiler pic

since it's one of his boilers. I know he will be interested to find out what's wrong. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

They're probably Clow \"Gasteam\" units

@ February 1, 2003 5:08 PM in Is It Dangerous to Operate Steam Radiators Without Water

surprised they haven't started a fire. But I think they have pipe tappings on the bottom- if that were my house I'd probably build a steam system using them, and disconnect the gas burners. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Had to

@ January 30, 2003 6:03 PM in Slant-Fin steam baseboard

get him out of the way of the shot! Don't know whose boot that was- could have been HO's, he was doing his own drywall. That system had a lot wrong with it when we first got there, but we got him straighened out. That's what made him decide to heat the addition with Orifice Vapor. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Amen, Steve

@ January 30, 2003 5:50 PM in EFFICIANCY PAYBACK

I talk to many people who have gotten the idea that a new boiler will cure their high heating costs. Well, it might help, but once the boiler has transferred the heat to the water (whether boiling it or not) its job is done. From that point on, the SYSTEM must move the heat to the rooms. I see this problem all the time on steam systems, but it can show up on hot-water as well. Fortunately, it's usually pretty easy to cure. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Tell us more, Jim

@ January 30, 2003 5:45 PM in EFFICIANCY PAYBACK

was the unit just way out of adjustment, or was there some other problem? To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Impressive

@ January 30, 2003 5:29 PM in Critique please....

I can't say I want one though- the server would surely crash if there was a pic of me on there........... BTW- I have a neighbor who will be retiring to the Boulder area in the next couple of years. He will need a hydronics contractor. I'd like to send you his information but your e-mail address here on the Wall doesn't work...... To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

If that's the company I'm thinking of

@ January 30, 2003 5:12 PM in when oil deliveries fail

with the first initial of C, I've seen some bad performance from them in Baltimore too. Not all their people are bad, but the trouble is you never know who you're going to get. Johnny, one of the nice things about oil heat is the choices you have. If you're using a supplier that falls down on the job, get some recommendations and switch suppliers! You can't do that with gas, and since gas companies are mostly deregulated now there really isn't any price-per-BTU advantage. You really are better off with a locally-owned, family-run business. That's the kind of company I use. Too bad Carroll-Independent doesn't operate in your area- they do a great job. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

What a mess

@ January 30, 2003 4:54 PM in I have seen the enemy & it ain't just us (PAH)

I hate to have to say this, but if I were that HO I'd sue those incompetent fools. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

John, I have

@ January 29, 2003 5:38 PM in EDR ?

some old convector literature- Dunham, Trane and Herman-Nelson. Do you know who made the convectors on that system? To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

In order for a Programmable Thermostat

@ January 29, 2003 5:12 PM in Automatic Thermostats and Steam Boilers?

to work well on steam, the system must respond quickly to a call for heat. This is possible when the steam pipes are insulated, mains and radiators properly pitched and vented, and the boiler clean and in proper tune. These items in themselves will also lower the fuel consumption. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Betcha

@ January 29, 2003 5:08 PM in Slant-Fin steam baseboard

water hammer did that. It's pretty powerful! To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Not sure

@ January 29, 2003 5:05 PM in steam boiler ran for 11 hours today!

but that looks like 2-inch pipe to me. Measure the outside diameter of the short piece between the tee and the elbow in the above photo. It will be 1/4" or so larger than the inside diameter of the pipe, which is how pipe sizing is given in this type of system. Given 2-inch pipe and 20 feet of length, a Gorton #1 or Hoffman #75 main vent is the right one to install. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

That amount of motion

@ January 29, 2003 5:00 PM in Surging question

should not be a problem, Kevin. I've never seen a boiler where the water level didn't move up and down slightly when it was steaming. But if it gets much worse than that, the boiler should be cleaned. "Near-boiler piping" refers to the way the piping around the boiler is configured. The proper configuration is critical, especially with newer boilers. The manufacturer provides detailed installation instructions which should be followed closely. Dan covers this and many, many other things in his book "The Lost Art of Steam Heating", which you can order from the Books and More page of this site. It's worth getting even if you won't be working on your system yourself. How about taking a picture of your boiler and posting it here? To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

The lack of a proper header is doing that

@ January 29, 2003 4:49 PM in Utica Boiler spitting water

I'll bet you don't have 24 inches between the maximum water level and the bottom of what passes for a header. Here is a shot of what it looks like in those risers, and why you need the 24-inches minimum. I like to go even higher than that if I can. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

You might also

@ January 29, 2003 4:41 PM in Whine but no grapes

want to ditch the zone valves and install a properly sized circulator on each zone. This would work better especially with primary-secondary pumping. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Compare that to this

@ January 29, 2003 7:53 AM in Utica Boiler spitting water

and you'll instantly see the problem. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"

Vaporstats and overshooting

@ January 29, 2003 7:44 AM in Setback thermostats and steam heat

If a system is overshooting a Vaporstat can help. When running ounces instead of a pound or two, you're compressing less steam into the rads. So there's less steam condensing and giving off 970 BTUs per pound of latent heat. While this may not completely cure the problem, it will certainly help. To Learn More About This Contractor, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Contractor"