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Uei Combustion Analyzer C50, Any good?

@ March 3, 2011 1:24 PM in Uei Combustion Analyzer C50, Any good?

Hi this one look like a good value and I need a new unit and only use the unit minimally. Have you had any experience with this, and has it been accurate and good for extremely light usage?

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@ February 28, 2011 5:26 AM in Changed from Del .85/80B to Hago 1.10/80B, now gets small puffback at startup

You were right on, was a combustion problem, way to much air resolved and set correctly and she is running great. Thanks

Hago

@ February 27, 2011 12:16 PM in Changed from Del .85/80B to Hago 1.10/80B, now gets small puffback at startup

It is a Black Cap Hago Solid, not the semi-solid

Changed from Del .85/80B to Hago 1.10/80B, now gets small puffback at startup

@ February 27, 2011 11:28 AM in Changed from Del .85/80B to Hago 1.10/80B, now gets small puffback at startup

So in an effort to resolve a small carbon buildup problem on the F4 bruner after about a month of good running operation I went with Peerless's recccomenation for the WBV-04 and installed the Hago 1.10/80B. Installed it, checked Z, S, electrodes are right on, good fuel supply and new filters.

Installed the Hago and now every start if you are next to the boiler you catch a small puffback smell, no noticeable smoke, but just enough to smell it which wasn't happening before.

Decided to recheck all measurements again and everything appears correct. I haven't used Hagos before, always Delevans with no issues. I also noticed that their was oil on the nozzle and base when I removed it. The tube is new and the nozzle was correctly torqued so I am wondering if posibbly the nozzle could be bad.

The burner is an AFG with the cleancut pump and genesys control with a 15 sec prepurge. It is a soft sounding clean light so no booms or other loud issues. Maybe Hago is not as good? Any ideas would be appreciated
Chris

I agree, but...

@ February 26, 2011 4:37 PM in Oil mist in blast tube? Time for LRFB?

I agree and prefer Delevan also but Peerless only rates just one Delevan in this series boiler, so I am wondering if perhaps there is a reason for the style.

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@ February 26, 2011 2:26 PM in Oil mist in blast tube? Time for LRFB?

Yes you are correct. Peerless publishes these versions of their boiler and the same 4 section can be run (per Peerless) in the following setups and nozzle types. I contacted PB about the issue and the tech did tell me they see the .85 I am running much less often than the 1.10 Hago and that I should not experience troubles with that Nozzle. I think at this point, I will give the hago a try and it is really isn't much more consumtpion and is probably a better match for this somehwhat larger boiler.

WBV-03-085 AFG-F3¹ F3 3-3/8" 0.75 80° B HAGO³ 140 PSI 6.0 1 N/A
WBV-03-110 AFG-F4 F4 3-3/8" 0.90 80° B HAGO 140 PSI 6.0 0 N/A
WBV-04-095 AFG-F4 F4 3-3/8" 0.85 80° B DEL4 140 PSI 6.0 0 N/A
WBV-04-125 AFG-F4 F4 3-3/8" 1.10 80° B HAGO³ 140 PSI 5.0 2 N/A
WBV-04-150 AFG-F6 F6 2-3/4" 1.25 80° B HAGO 140 PSI 8.0 1 N/A
WV-05-175 AFG-MV1 V-1 - 1.50 60° B HAGO³ 140 PSI 10.0 3 3
WV-05-200 AFG-MV1 V-1 - 1.75 60° B HAGO 140 PSI 10.0 9 3

Sorry

@ February 26, 2011 9:34 AM in Oil mist in blast tube? Time for LRFB?

Sorry Im a little sick today, the pressure is 140psi, and I thought the Z was right on the money, but I will check it again with the gauge and see.

Specs

@ February 26, 2011 8:42 AM in Oil mist in blast tube? Time for LRFB?

The boiler is 8 years old. The burner is completely new, old setup was the same afg but running a 1.25gph and was wasting heat and short cycling. New burner, transformer, cleancut pump. Pump checked at 140psi, gaskets and seals all new and working.

The carbon issue is definitely accumulating on the upper portion of the retention ring, which was also replaced and is a F4. The carbon forms a crust that actually extends maybe a 1/2" past the ring and eventually shorts making the system not turn on. The boiler has been cleaned, vacd.

Did just notice that the draft is .03" but the barometric control was set a bit to loose and was cutting the draft back. I am wondering if this could have played a part.

Oil mist in blast tube? Time for LRFB?

@ February 25, 2011 6:44 PM in Oil mist in blast tube? Time for LRFB?

Have a Peerless WBV-04 currently setup with a Delevan .85gph 80* nozzle, per the energey star specs on their site. However about once a month there is hard soot building up on the nozzle and electrodes and shutting down the system. Draft is .03" and it is running well otherwise. When the system has shut down I have seen a small amount of oil mist in the lad tube, not much but enough so it looks as though it may have sucked some back. Most literature says for this firing the low rate baffle should be used, but is not indicated by Peerless. Any ideas on what it might be or other areas to check. More than likely will just upgrade to their specific 1.10 hago B nozzle, but the oil consumption of the delevan is excellent and meeting all the heating needs, so I would like to keep the original size. thank you for any assistance.

The Answer

@ February 9, 2011 6:27 PM in Hago Nozzles are ES the same as B?

Hago does manufacture B and ES nozzles. The ES are specified for specific applications and do have a different pattern than the B type which focus more fuel towards the center than the ES. I contacted them since no one had answered yet so hope this helps if you are looking.

Anyone using nordfab for oil exahust pipe?

@ February 9, 2011 10:36 AM in Anyone using nordfab for oil exahust pipe?

My ductwork is in bad shape, and I want to replace it, and the nordfab claims that it is 100 percent seamless and certainless seems to be the best piping around. They rate it at up to 600* which should be adequate. Is anyone using their piping off your boiler installs? thank you

Hago Nozzles are ES the same as B?

@ February 8, 2011 6:44 PM in Hago Nozzles are ES the same as B?

Not sure about this, but are there Hago B nozzles any longer? Are B and ES (Extra Solid) the same? The specs call for a Hago 1.10B and my supplier had Hago 1.10ES. Thank you

Head and Nozzles Carboning Up, S Dimension to blame?

@ February 5, 2011 11:16 AM in Head and Nozzles Carboning Up, S Dimension to blame?

This winter my system shutdown and after another month there is excessive carbon buildup on the electrodes, and even some oil spray inside the blast tube. Upond close inspection the S dimension on was set to 2 3/8" and it should be 2 13/16" which seems a pretty substantial difference to me, and it ha been adjusted. Everything else appears to be correctly set and tuned, does this seem that it could have been the cause of the buildup?

could be right

@ February 3, 2011 12:15 PM in Downdraft problem, oil into fireplace flue

I know what you are saying, I will definitely check it out to be sure, it might be simple for me just t install the beckett outside air kit and that will help eliminate the possibility of it now or later.

Think I have it

@ February 3, 2011 10:49 AM in Downdraft problem, oil into fireplace flue

I understand the downdraft issues but I don't think its a matter of not having enough air to draw in. I think the issue is the fact I installed two individual flue caps next to each other and the oil flue isn't able to disperese its pressured exahust straight out, so when it hits the top of the cap it splits and one side of it is right next to the other cap for my fireplace and some id draw down.

I am going to remove the oil cap and see if the problem is gone.

Downdraft problem, oil into fireplace flue

@ February 1, 2011 8:21 PM in Downdraft problem, oil into fireplace flue

I realized today that I have a lousy problem.  Basically I have 2 flues, one for oil heat ex and one for fireplace.  We dont use the fireplace and I noticed the smell of oil exahust from the fireplace.  This year I installed two small stainless caps on each flue and the edges are touching one another, so I think what is happening is that when the oil heat runs, the warm air goes up and the oher flue which is ice cold here, always has a slight downdraft and when I opened the damper, the exahust smell is very strong coming in.  The temp fix is that I plugged the fireplace flue with insulation and that seemed to have stopped it for now.

Is this common or what have you done to solve it, I think my best choice may be a sealing plate on the top of the fieplace flue or to install an insert with its own liner and cap.  Thank you

pipe

@ January 27, 2011 10:16 PM in Stainless Flue Pipe

sorry, its oil fired natural vent

Stainless Flue Pipe

@ January 27, 2011 8:15 PM in Stainless Flue Pipe

Hi, my exahust pipe is pretty beat and I dont think its weel sealed. Does anyone make a better quality pipe or offer the insulation that goes over it.  Also is stainless an option for this pipe?  Thank you

I hear you, but I expected more

@ January 4, 2011 3:25 PM in Not so thrilled with the Beckett 7505A-0000. Crapped out

I wouldn't say that is the primary's fault but I would have expected more, and I don't know many boilers that at some point haven't had some water spill or splash from something either on the burner or on the controls and I just haven't heard of one failing for this.   I know my old old Honeywell has either had water splash on it or get wet and this didn't happen.  Considering Beckett is by far the minority of primary controls and I suppose I took a chance by getting one for me it didn't hold up in the same environment other controls did.  
My next control will be a R7284U from Honeywell.  Beckett's clip on controller is terrible, difficult to snap on and easy to bend the pins.  The contractor stand alone tool is better and the price is basically the same.
My hope is that Beckett will replace it for free and they are always good about things like that but if a control is going to sit in a boiler room for 10-20 years it needs to be able to take some trouble IMO. 

Any networked thermostats that offer web control?

@ January 4, 2011 10:57 AM in Any networked thermostats that offer web control?

Hi I am looking for digital thermostats that hopefully can only use two wires and can be wired in the boiler room and tied into ethernet wirh a web interface and programming.  I would like to be able to program them all from one place or centrally turn them up or down?  Any ideas, I need 8 therms and am afaraid this will cost a fortune but hope I am wrong.  thank you
chris

Not thrilled with the Beckett Primary 7505A-0000. Crapped out

@ January 4, 2011 10:18 AM in Not so thrilled with the Beckett 7505A-0000. Crapped out

This primary is not even one year old, and the burner got a bit of carbon build up on the retention head and it made the burner lock out late last night, it wasn't noticed until the AM.   Cleaned the head, checked everything, things seemed neat and tidy.  The bigger issue was when the water temp dropped one of the bleeder valves above started weeping water and a puddle formed, plus floor surface tension let some run down a pipe and clearly some got into the primary though it didn't appear to be much.  Turned it on and the relay clicked a few times and the display kept showing 0V for the line voltage and then it would alternate.  Used an air compressor and blew out what didn't seem like any water and finally it did fire, then shut down again, more air and seems to be back in business.  My fault for not having a direct spare to swap, but in many years my honeywell controls have gotten wet with mishaps, etc and this just surprised me that it would fail so easily, I am getting another, but I think I will ultimately swap to the new Honeywell 7284U.    The reality that these controls do occaisonally get some water spray or drip and I would think the internals were potted or something to anticipate this, the other design flaw is that there are a few holes on the top edges so the water seems to get right into the unit.

Crumbs around exhaust pipe, oil burner

@ October 17, 2010 6:20 PM in Crumbs around exhaust pipe, oil burner

The past 3 homes I have had with oil, always end up with a build up of bits and crumbs around the top of the boiler.  I finally wanted to ask, wat is this stuff?  It seems like everything is pretty well sealed up yet these bits still make it. 
Is there a better exhaust pipe I can buy that seals better?

Thank you