Heating Help

Indirect Water Heater? No controller needed?

@ January 7, 2010 2:12 PM in Indirect Water Heater? No controller needed?

I am looking into getting a SuperStor ssu-80 water heater installed. The local installer is not cheap compared to the cost of the tank, but I am happy to hear how he plans to install it and is adding in some extra items also, like valves to some existing lines.

My concern is that to bring the quote down he has opted to remove the tac controller but told me that he can still install it with a "valve" or relay that will allow prioriity to the hot water and run my exisiting 6 zone valves. But in the future if I wanted to add something else that I would definitely need a controller then.

Can you let me know your thoughts, is this a good thing, bad thing or a mistake? I just dont understand what relay he plans to install?

Thank you

Update

@ January 4, 2010 10:28 AM in Hot water tank, indirect off boilers coil? Or separate zone off boiler? Which to do

Thank you. I am trying to get a SuperStor or WM80 installed. I received one estimate that was insane at 3900.00 and am getting a few others since I had received one for around $2200.

I like the idea about the grundfos though I will ask about that. I also will be getting a new Beckette Aquastat with the integrated heatmanager.

Any good pumbers in New Bedford, Ma area?

@ January 2, 2010 9:24 PM in Any good pumbers in New Bedford, Ma area?

I didn't find much on the FAP section, wondering if I could find a good plumber in this area. I am looking to have a new indirect water heater installed on my peerless boiler.

Going nuts sweating 3/4 valve!

@ January 1, 2010 8:39 PM in Going nuts sweating 3/4 valve!

Sorry for such a basic post, I have sweated at least two dozen fittings over the years general trouble free. I was trying to replace a leaky 3/4" valve and didn't expect so much trouble.

I have failed now 2 times and before I attempt the third, it must be water in the line since basically I can never get it hot enough, and I am using mapp and when I take it apart some water comes out. I let it drain forever, opened and closed fixtures with no success

I havent ever tried the bread trick and saw that oatey sells some poly something that you put in the line.

Can someone tell me if it is common to use the stufing to keep the water back for a few minutes while you sweat it out, I think all my previous work was always on totally dry or new pipes

I just wonder if I am missing a trick to get the water out of the line or if the stuffing is the way to do.

Thanks very much!
Chris

Weil McClean 56 Gallon ID to replace 80 gallon????

@ December 29, 2009 8:53 PM in Weil McClean 56 Gallon ID to replace 80 gallon????

I am being told by the dealer that my 80 gallon buffer insulated tank run off my boiler coil will easily be able to be replaced by a 56 gallon WM true indirect. I have a 90 gallon jacuzzi and have 4 people in the house and I am not worried about simultaneous use of the tub and other items, but definitely need to be able to fill it with hot water.

Does this seem typical or possible, I just dont want to be disappointed later but dont want to overkill the application either.

Thank yuo
Chris

Hot water tank, indirect off boilers coil? Or separate zone off boiler? Which to do

@ December 28, 2009 7:42 PM in Hot water tank, indirect off boilers coil? Or separate zone off boiler? Which to do

I have a POS Vaugn 80 gallon water tank which lasted an entire 7 years only to find out that the failure took place at a factory weld and slowly ate through the tank. Vaughn would not assist, and now I need to replace it. I was surprised to see that this is just an insualted storage tank.

I am wondering now that it will be replaced, I have been looking at SuperStors which I had good luck with before, over 15 years old and no problems.

Is there a large different from running the hot water as a zone, vs using just a plain storage tank off the boilers hot water coil?

Just not sure if it makes a huge difference, all my zones now run off 3/4" and my exisiting tank is 3/4" pipe so I am not sure what to do here or what choice to ask for. Thank you very much
Chris

Anyone use the new Beckett Aquasmart

@ December 28, 2009 2:00 PM in Anyone use the new Beckett Aquasmart

Has anyone installed this yet, I was thinking of replacing my aquastat with this on my WBV peerless since its older and I wanted to get the heatmanager anyway and for about $50 more I get a new integrated unit. Just wondering what your experience has been

Leak

@ December 16, 2009 8:06 PM in Vaughn Indirect Water Heater Problem Leak

It is an indirect unit

Vaughn Leak

@ December 16, 2009 7:51 PM in Vaughn Indirect Water Heater Problem Leak

They told me I had no warranty since none of it could be xfered. Pretty sad and when I asked for a manager I was told there wasn't one. The more I read here I think the leak is pretty common and like many its coming from the top, so I think the coil and gasket must be there. I will cal them tomorrow and maybe pop the top to look and see what is there.

Vaughn Indirect Water Heater Problem Leak

@ December 16, 2009 7:16 PM in Vaughn Indirect Water Heater Problem Leak

My 80 gallon indirect tank appears to have developed a leak, but in a very odd way. There is a drip line of minerals from the safety valve down, but then I was surprised to see that behind the valvew is a little wet also and when I slightly pryed the cover on the top even that was a bit wet. So I would definitely say that the leak must be coming from the top down, but the pipe ontop is as dry as can be, but I am wondering if there is a fitting underneath this

Is this tank serviceable at all, I contacted the hotline and though the tank is under warranty they wont honor it since I just bought the house.

I never heard of this brand and they describe themslves as the rollys royce, but what I see looks like the ford fiat of water heaters.

This tank is 6 years old.

Any ideas if I can do anything or what else to try, you cant seem to get a parts diagram or anything off their web site.,

Whats wrong with this picture?

@ November 15, 2009 6:19 PM in Whats wrong with this picture?

Hi everyone, I am buying this house and at first the heating system seemed pretty good, peerless boiler, etc. But the more I look at this, it makes me wonder. #1 they seem to be running the separate water zone off the hot water coil, I would think this is a mistake. #2 the way they did the valves looks like a lot of trouble, but then I realize that the zone valve are actually up high by the ceiling above the heating system. Can you give me any suggestions, am I being too picky? Plus of course, I am getting a nice swing door boiler, but then I look and realize there is no quick disconnect on the burner for power, so my guess is that the door has never been opened.

What would you do here, or any tips? thank you

Question

@ April 30, 2006 5:35 PM in Where to get this bronze elbow?\"

The water pressure in my house I just oved into, 10 yrs old is 120psi! As soon as a facuet starts it creeps down and within about 15 second it goes to 60 psi, there is a conbraco pressure regulator there which doesnt seem to be responding to anything. I tried to replace it and thought I was golden when I bought the cheaper watts model which is exactly the same size and even threaded correctly. My problem is... The service pipe is 3.4" and it comes right into a heavy bronze elbow which points upward and right into the conbraco with a brass nut and rubber washer under. Then the other end is a female 3/4" threaded which goes into the pipe. The problem is that the watts regulator used an o-ring for sealing and has routed edge if you know what I mean, and the elbow there has a flat edge and a flat washer type. When I tried to assemble it anyway the threads match but it wont thread down enough to seal properly and it probably wouldt be a good idea anyway. This probably makes no sense, and I am sorry for wasting bandwidth, but I wanted to know if I was missing a huge obvious issue. The item I would need would basically be a brass or broze elbow (but longer than normal its a gentle curve and extends about 2 inches on one end) and have the watts compatible oring sealer on the other. Or do I have to just put another adapter in and solder what I need from there. Thank you Chris

Wanted to Buy: Endurance Parts

@ October 31, 2005 8:06 PM in Endurance Parts

Hi, I am looking for any parts, electrical mostly or possibly valves, etc that you might have from the Endurance heating system by Laars. If you have anything and would like to sell them please email me. thanks