Joined on September 10, 2003
Last Post on October 2, 2004
@ September 26, 2004 10:23 PM in condensing or hi efficient boilerJust have to clear you up on a few things..... First... the Ultra IS a true modulating boiler.... whoever told you that it only runs 20 or 100% is full of soup... they don't know what they are talking about. It will modulate ANYWHERE within that range. Next,... the outdoor sensor IS included with the boiler, all you have to do is hook up two wires to it. The next point some here will take a major exception too, but here goes anyway.... the V boiler is not worth the extra... the WM boiler is a very good unit for much less money and the ROI for a V is definetly not worth it. Just my opinion.... Lastly, you have a circulation problem, pure and simple....you are not getting enough water moving through the system, now either your punp is too small, doesn't work properly, your piping is too small, there is too ong of run of radiation for the size of the piping and /or pump, etc.... it's really very simple... not enough flow for the amount of btu's jumping off the train... means the train is moving too slow. Oh yes there is one more thing.... how do you know that the wholesaler know one iota more about heat loss calculations than you do???? Just because he DOES them doesn't mean he has a clue!!!!! Plus they are a bit in the same wagon as the Gas Co., they are in business to sell you a boiler and such...the more they can sell you the more profit they potentially stand to make. At the very least get a couple of opinions as to what you heat loss actually is, and if you at all can, try to double check their figures yourself. Btw, just for your info. even if you aren't condensing with a WM Ulta, the boier will still be running over 90%. I've checked it with my combustion meter. don't ask me how or why, I just know that it does..... Good luck!!! I think you on the way to avinga ton of money. Floyd
@ September 25, 2004 2:33 AM in appropriate charges?That's all that really matters!!! I just have this habit of selling everything that I possibly can on a job....just the way I'm wired... I guess it shows here also :-) I'm really glad your happy with the job that you got. Many a warm night to you!!!! Floyd
@ September 25, 2004 12:06 AM in condensing or hi efficient boilerI run my own house on the Slant Fin heat loss calc. Now my house is 36 x 60, brick with NO insulation.....BIG windows that rattle in the wind... and NO insulation in the attic. The window that I'm sitting in front of right now is 40 sq. ft. single pane... yup lots of window glass in this house!!! Now, even if I don't include the 70 some K that the program says that the basement needs... I still am at 270 K!!!! Now..... I heated this energy hog with a 100K 80% H B Smith boiler for 8 years, in temps. as low as -28, before installing an Ultra 155 last year. If the 105 had been available then, I would have went with that. All I'm thinking here is, be careful..... what is Slant Fin sellin????? HMMMMMMMMM....... Baseboard........ Boilers??????? A little boiler can go a lot farther than you think.... IF....you get the heat to where it needs to be efficiently.... Floyd
@ September 24, 2004 8:08 AM in appropriate charges?I'd would have been ripping and tearing and starting all over.... would not have even wanted to do just what he did for you... never should have even thought to give you a price "over the phone" for that kind of work. Still more to be done there...... Floyd
@ September 23, 2004 11:00 PM in LOOKING FOR 100 FRIENDShowever, we made plans with some friends many moons ago to ride down to Atlanta to attend the Nascar race the last weekend of Oct. The piggy bank and the schedule just don't have enough in reserve.....and I missed Baltimore..... I sure hope ther's a next one after this AND it's on a weekend that I can make work!!!!! I sure miss being there.... although missing Murph in that G-string had to be the best part of NOT being there!!!! Sign up!!! your sure to have a blast!!! AND learn more than you ever thought you could learn in ONE day. Floyd
@ September 23, 2004 10:52 PM in Condensing Boiler good for hot water baseboard?How long DO you want your boiler to last??????? Sorry two questions......:-) What will be out there to heat your home with in say fifteen years???? Think about it.... Floyd
@ September 23, 2004 10:35 PM in Don't like Wirsbo pexmakes things go much easier!!!! Hold with one hand and pull the trigger with the other. As has been stated.... keep the pipe dry, the oil from your hands makes it slippery, if you want you can rough it up a bit with emery cloth, move the ring just ahead of the end of the pipe, keep the rings in your pocket in cold weather, hold the last expand a bit if you have a tight place to put the pipe on, it gives you more time. The more you work with it the easier it gets, and the more tricks you will learn. Oh, and BTW.... they do make the pipe in RED now...... Invest in the battery tool.....your shoulder will thank you!!! and it goes very fast with that thing!!!! Yeah, I forgot to mention.... the heads for the 3/4 and up for the battery tool are redesigned to reduce the slippage problem. They are the "H" head, said to reduce the number of expansions needed, but they also reduce the push back of the ring.....at least that is my experience. Just my couple of cents worth..... Floyd
@ September 17, 2004 9:26 PM in new system put in by plumberfrom the pics., you should be just fine...... the guy that did you're system knows that actually the "old" way of doing things does not work as well as the way that he did it for you. The system set up the way he has it should work just fine. I can see a few minor things that I would have done differently, but they shouldn't affect the performance of the system significatly. Pay the guy... he earned his money. Floyd
@ September 17, 2004 4:46 PM in Coal stokerthe Keystoker and the Axeman Anderson. Both are made in Pa., the Keystoker in the coal country of Wilkesbarre-Scranton area, the Axeman Anderson right here in S. Wiliamsport. They both work very well. The Keystone burns "Pea" and the Axeman Anderson "Nut" coal. The Keystoker shown is a hot air unit, but the hot water model is very similar. The Keystoker will hold enough coal in the bin for a couple of days, the Axeman Anderson is made to run coal up the auger out of a large coal bin. There is a shroud that can be put on the Axeman Anderson to insulate it and make it "purtty". This install was in a veal barn and the owner didn't spring for the extra.... Floyd
@ September 15, 2004 8:30 AM in Wiel McClain Ultrais just a kit to allow you to interface the Tekamr control with the control module of the Ultra boiler. The Ultra has the outdoor reset built into it, however if you chose to install multiple boilers and then have them controled by a Tekmar 265, then you need to also get the kit to enable the 265 to talk to the boiler. With the 265 you can actually control upto 9 boilers, sequence them, and modulate them. I have found that with the multiple boiler setups the best eff. is to have the boiler modulate in parrellel, that way instead of one boiler going to full fire before the next comes on, the 265 will bring the second boiler on as soon as the frist boiler gets to arond 40% modulation. This way both boilers are running at a very low fire and they run more eff. at low fire than they do at a higher fire. The 265 control gives many options as to how you want to set up the modulation, reset curves etc..... The Ultra has many of the same features buit into it.....but Weil will not give the info on how to change everything around to just anyone. If you have a particular problem or question it is best to call their tech. support and they will walk you through whatever......
@ September 15, 2004 12:52 AM in Wiel McClain Ultraas close together as possible...make sure the header is big enough, and up size if needed. The tee's can be a ways away from the boiler but you may then have to upsize the piping to make up for head loss. Main thing is that you must have good flow through the boiler. floyd
@ September 14, 2004 12:56 AM in Can Someone Date This Thing?of the new install?????
@ September 14, 2004 12:53 AM in A GREAT UPDATE TO GIVE!!!!!!!I can see where you got the old bullheaded, never say die attitude.....she sure wasn't ready to give just yet.....we'll keep on praying for her!!! Floyd
@ September 14, 2004 12:50 AM in Munchkin Boilersis not nearly so important as the quality of the installer and the people that are backing him up.......there are many boilers out there that are of very good quality, the Munchie is one of them, however, they are no better than the people responsible for installing and servicing them. That holds true for any boiler......or vehicle...or A/C unit or.....you get my drift. Get references.....
@ September 14, 2004 12:28 AM in Wiel McClain UltraWeil calls it - AM-4 it plugs into the control module of the Ultra, you give the control module a few tweeks, and then the 265 will take over the modulation part of the control of the boiler. Setting up the 265 can be a bit time consuming for the first time. It may take a hour or so to get things all tricked out the first time you do it. I know I ain't Josh, but I have a couple of installs that I have set up that way. Here are a couple of quick pics.
@ September 8, 2004 6:31 PM in Weil-McLain Ultra boilerGrainger #5JJ98 Yeah, it's 200 bucks, but it's worth it....if you wire the circ. pump as Kal said it will run it for a while. However you can set this unit to just filter the electric, also. Have fun!!!! You'll save a TON more this year...... Floyd
@ September 8, 2004 1:09 AM in Weil-McLain Ultra boilerI now have a dozen or so of the Ultra boilers installed..... Three of them are in Ag. applications that have them running 24/7.... the longest is coming up on 1 year of continuous operation. The boiler just chuggs along maintaining 140, modulating up and down to supply the BTU's needed. Most of the time these boilers are running towards the higher end of the modulation, so no they aren't just idling along, they are working. The main problem that I have found that they are suceptable to is the electrical problems that can come with any electronic equipment. Once in a great while they will lockout if the power goes out and flickers right back on. Also make sure you protect the boilers from power surges, if there is a possibility that they will get hit. Power surges can fry either the main control module or the blower circuit board. A good surge strip seems to do the trick. Over all I'm extremely satisfied with the boiler and the big reason for that is that I have a great distributor and the Co. has been very helpful with any questions that I may throw their way. The support that I get from the manufacturers and suppliers of any product is the number one reason why I would buy any product. The best equipment in the world ain't worth 2 pennies if you ain't got nobody behind you to back you up. So to actually respond to your questions..... Control life..... okay so far as long as you protect it reasonably. Venting.... no problem, very forgiving... go where ever you have to go with it... even underground...just make sure you don't trap it. Reliability.... You know of many other boilers that will take being hammered non stop for a year with zero problems??? I do, the WM Gold......beyond that there aren't a lot out there that I'd want to do that with..... Oh, there is one more thing..... as some that have posted here in the past have found out.... you better have someone that knows what they are doing install the boiler... the piping is critical that it is done right. Read and FOLLOW ..ALL instructions!!!!!! And Yup, if everything is installed correctly it can save you a ton of money.... it's not just the boiler eff. that you need you need to design a SYSTEM that will get you all that the boiler has to offer. Any more questions????? Floyd
@ August 29, 2004 11:59 PM in 170 degree domestic from an indirrect?used a 80 gallon Bock and burnt it up in a couple of years...wouldn't warranty the thing either, said it was a "commercial" application. Replaced the Bock with Weil Gold 100, works many times better and provides tons more hot water. Had the water to 200 in no time. Not sure what that boiler is, never heard of it, but the boiler I used was a Weil WGO-4, cranked the boiler right up to 230 and that combo seems to work like a charm... going on 6 months now sure I can't speak to the longevity yet, but it is definetly doing the job. This indirect is a S/S tank inside of a steel tank.. the tank in tank design seems to work better than the coil jobs.... just my opinion..... http://www.weil-mclain.com/netdocs/plusframes.htm Floyd BTW... this indirect is also a commercial tank....I bet they hold to their warranty for it in your application. A quick call to their tech support would confirm that.
@ August 27, 2004 1:22 AM in Radiant ceiling panels....I have found a product made by Sterling..... Has anybody used these and what kind of results did you get??? Also are there other products out there for suspended ceiling applications, beside the Sterling product??? http://www.sterlingheat.com/html/radiant_heating.htm http://www.sterlingheat.com/html/..%5Clitlibrary%5Cradiantm.pdf Thanks!! Floyd